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Title: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 01, 2018, 11:24:43 AM
Starting this thread in order to highlight that our planned summer work to install the bridge is getting underway and will be very intense at times.  Here’s a general request for any extra help we can get- we’ll put out specific calls for help on a day by day basis, as they’re needed.

I’ll put out a full task list and rough schedule under the bridge thread- so it’s a linear discussion over the next 3 months.  To foreshadow this week: heavy work days are planned for Tuesday and Thursday, with a lighter work day on Friday.  We plan to prep the stringers for the bridge approach spans (20 beams).  On Thursday or Friday morning we expect our large timber shipment to arrive: 22 pilings, and dozens of timbers.  We may start sorting those out.

Also this week- we will complete 309’s truck, as well as a repair on coach 3’s brake system.  There’ll be some prep for the upcoming ice cream social too.

Joe will continue trying to sprinkle in track work throughout the bridge project.  Initially, he’s hoping for some very limited help (1 or 2) this coming Monday (tomorrow).

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 02, 2018, 11:03:14 PM
I got about 160' of track tamped today, amongst a few minor repairs made through out the day, and needing to replace a few missing nuts the tamper ran very well. I am still amazed with how well it is running currently. Tamping is a little slow at times, but I suspect one more full day of tamping, a crew to dress ballast the tamped areas, and the rebuilt area will be very good. I'd like to get it lined, however it won't be this year due to other more pressing track projects, but will be a good filler between trains if crew permits.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Brendan Barry on July 03, 2018, 12:08:26 AM
Boxcar 309's repaired truck about to be rolled under the car. The top frame of the truck was bent down on the ends from the force of the brakes being applied and an archbar needed repair at one of the journal boxes. The top frame was bent back into place and reinforcement pieces were fitted on top of the truck frame. The WW&F had repaired this truck before on one corner before using the same method.

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/bbarry74/bridge/IMG_3732.jpg)

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/bbarry74/bridge/IMG_3724.jpg)

Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 04, 2018, 01:19:55 AM
Although it is a holiday, there will be shop work, and track work going on 7/4.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on July 04, 2018, 12:27:30 PM
Anticipated work for weekend of July 7-8:

* Ice Cream Social: Saturday unless it rains then Sunday (no rain in the forecast).  We need help.
* Caboose 320
* Bridge
* Mountain Extension
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 04, 2018, 03:58:08 PM
Bridge work...what? Staining? Custom tie work? Sitework? Short approach spans?
ME work...what? More Grading? Clearing? Culverts? Retaining wall build?
I'm nosy by nature.  ;)
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on July 04, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
Eventually, yes to all.  My lists are usually guesswork based on ongoing stuff, I don't know of any specifics planned for the weekend.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on July 04, 2018, 09:09:25 PM
Did a little good neighbor deed today.

Seems someone left a load of gravel late last summer in Mid Coast Conservancy's Trout Brook parking area. They thought we did it. We thought they did it. No one knew where it came from. Well, after plowing around it this winter, and having Mid Coast ask us if we could do something about it, today was the day. I walked the dozer down the side of 218 and took care of it.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0704181135_zpsqzcpwctc.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0704181136_zpsvmpg2hh4.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0704181315_zpsghgneml8.jpg)


Then, after returning from the North End, I organized the blocks so they were out of the way and in order of need.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0704181503a_zpseocowims.jpg)
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Bob Holmes on July 04, 2018, 11:15:44 PM
I drove into the Conservancy parking lot today.  Mike did a great job of improving it!  When neighbors help neighbors, only good things can result!

Bob
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on July 04, 2018, 11:19:40 PM
Nice job Mike! Thanks.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Reidy on July 04, 2018, 11:29:21 PM
Very good Mike -- thanks!
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 05, 2018, 01:03:09 AM
Well today didn't go as well as I had hoped. Tamper is still down,  Linc and I tried to find the missing parts, no such luck. Then I did some brush cutting, but experienced some issues there as well. Oh well, there is always another day I guess.

Track crew of one is a challenge, but I have developed a good system for me to work alone. Also trying to develope ways to line track alone, and work on new ways to jack and tamp with a one man crew. This and working on new flat car sides should help out with track work.

Other things I am thinking on is a ballast regulator to push stone out of the middle of the tracks, and wings to pull stone up, or if you travel in reverse could push stone out. All just ideas, but as our track grows and track crew continues to decrease our demand for actual track machines increases.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Alex Harvilchuck on July 05, 2018, 01:46:34 AM
All just ideas, but as our track grows and track crew continues to decrease our demand for actual track machines increases.

See my PM, I might be able to help.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 05, 2018, 04:42:25 AM
How about having quarterly work weekends to take care of serious problems only?
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 05, 2018, 08:54:54 PM
Next week:

Monday, Tuesday: pre-fab bridge abutments at Sheepscot.
Wednesday: install silt fence, mark out abutment excavation at bridge site (finish abutments if needed).
Mon-Wed: paint bridge.
Thursday: (rain forecast): continue work on steel temp spans.

Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Al Michelis on July 05, 2018, 10:19:54 PM
Jason - thanks for the schedule. Hope it will be dry enough to paint on Monday. Will be there Tuesday to paint or whatever. Hope to be early on Saturday for Fred's crew and if the tamper is working, track crew. Parking lot? Probably.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Al Michelis on July 05, 2018, 10:48:49 PM
The next 10 days from Weather Underground (usually the most accurate)
https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/me/alna/44.11%2C-69.62
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 06, 2018, 05:53:21 PM
Alna area 80s wx looks very favorable for WW&F work progress, with only showers next Thursday.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on July 07, 2018, 08:31:03 PM
Work done on Saturday July 7:

Thankfully the hot humid weather broke yesterday, and today was cool(ish) and comfortable. 

* Ice Cream Social: over 150 people attended.  Trains had plenty of people in them.
* Bridge: Preservative was applied to the cross pieces and the large approach timbers.  Meanwhile Zack was working to put ties on the bridge, worked in with the cross braces.
* Caboose: Marcel was working on the across-the-car pieces and was starting to work on the along-the-car pieces.
* Weed whacking: Joe was trimming weeds.
* Mountain Extension: Mike was spreading gravel.  Fred and minions finished cutting up the soft wood and delivering it up the road.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on July 07, 2018, 09:10:51 PM
There are those "Fred Minions" again.  Are Fred Minions the same as those little Moose Trout minnows?
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Reidy on July 08, 2018, 01:26:47 AM
Fred and his minions must have been busy today.  When Dave and I stopped by around 8.30, there still was quite a bit of pine to be cut up and hauled away.  Must have been multiple trips.

I heard the paid ticket count was 165 today.  I saw lots of families having a good time both at Alna Center and on the train.  Thank goodness the weather was much better today than it has been the past week -- a bit cooler (still warm) and more importantly not muggy.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 09, 2018, 07:30:29 PM
Revised plan for this week:

The bridge limber truck did not arrive as expected Friday.  As a result, today was spent working on approach span beams and painting the bridge, along with a few smaller projects.

Bridge lumber truckload arrives tomorrow morning.  After unloading, we head up to do put out silt fence and work with contractor Jeff to finish up some roadbed repairs near end of track.

On Wednesday and Thursday we start building abutments.

While I can’t be here Saturday, I hope to arrange a crew foreman to carry on with abutment construction.  Once that is confirmed I’ll post that crew leader here.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 09, 2018, 10:55:13 PM
Ed, when you get a chance, can you pull out schedule discussion and put it under museum discussion?  Just to keep this thread clean...
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on July 10, 2018, 01:28:28 AM
Ed, when you get a chance, can you pull out schedule discussion and put it under museum discussion?  Just to keep this thread clean...

A discussion regarding the merits of our train scheduling has been split off and moved to the Museum Discussion section of the forum.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 10, 2018, 02:16:11 AM
Latest work pics should be outstanding, especially of the star of the show...Da Bridge, wearing a new 'outfit'!
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 10, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
Seeing a few sneak pics, it looks great. Errr, I mean RED.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on July 10, 2018, 02:34:04 PM
B&M red?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on July 10, 2018, 03:13:28 PM
Moose Trout Red.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on July 10, 2018, 04:38:08 PM
My fave color!
Please...don't spare the photos.
Your international fans await!   ;D
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Charlie Giordano on July 11, 2018, 12:36:18 AM
Hello all,

My girlfriend and I are interested in coming up for the 27th-29th to help volunteer. After she plays at the Ossipee Music Festival on Friday, we were thinking we would come up to the railway and do some volunteering and camping if possible. I've been involved with a number of narrow gauge steam operations out west and we are heading to Wales in August to volunteer on The FFWHR for a few weeks so we figured this would be a good precursor to our 2 foot gauge excursion. Would love to know what is going on that weekend and what we may bring along to help. Luckily I packed a pair of bibs and some boots! Would love to help do some track work, load coal, paint, sand, etc. Put us to work!  ;D

Charlie
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on July 11, 2018, 01:44:04 AM
Charlie,

That time falls within my summer visit and I can make plans not to take that Friday off to be with my wife so when the team leaders let us know what they want, we can tackle something.  As it now stands I will be on the train crew on the weekend, but usually arrive early enough to do a little work before tackling train crew duties.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Dwight Winkley on July 11, 2018, 02:47:33 AM
Charlie
When I work at museum and camp, I stay at Chewonki Campground.
Campground is south of Wiscasset behind the local airport.

Interesting. Ossipee Music Festival is in West Ossipee. The rr station still stands. In fact all three rr stations in town still stand.
I live in Center Ossipee.
dwight winkley
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 11, 2018, 10:15:40 AM
Bill and Charlie: that last weekend of July will be prime bridge time.  While we don’t know the day by day until we’re closer, nearly certain there’ll be bridge work on our plate.  The influx of volunteers will be welcome.

Thanks!
Jason
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on July 11, 2018, 10:59:53 AM
Work "wish list" for weekend of July 14 2018:

* Mountain Extension
* Bridge: staining?  Wood preservative?
* Track work
* Caboose 320
* Board meeting Saturday evening although there's a move afoot to move it to the 21st.

As a side note: Sunday afternoon at 2 PM our own Roger Whitney will be playing the pump organ at the Head Tide Church.  Although you can't take the train there yet.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Charlie Giordano on July 11, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
Bill,

If we arrive on Friday, it will likely be in the afternoon. I think Sofia plays around 11 and then we will be off headed north. Will steam be running both Saturday and Sunday? Would really like to see the forney in action!

Charlie
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on July 11, 2018, 05:56:28 PM
All;
As James mentioned there indeed was a move afoot to move the Board meeting. Fearing the lack of a quorum and after polling the directors and other hangers-on, I have decided to postpone the July Board of Directors meeting until July 21, 2018 at 4:00 p.m. I apologize if this inconveniences any of you. My plans for a record-breaking attempt for the shortest Board meeting have gone aground.
Dave
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on July 11, 2018, 07:15:57 PM
Bill and Charlie: that last weekend of July will be prime bridge time.  While we don’t know the day by day until we’re closer, nearly certain there’ll be bridge work on our plate.  The influx of volunteers will be welcome.

Thanks!
Jason

So, Jason, what's on the plate for next week? I should be arriving the 16th, sometime in the afternoon.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on July 11, 2018, 07:49:11 PM
Jeff,
Next week he plans on bridge cobstruction. He has the timber crib to construct, silt fencing to do at the bridge site, more staining on the bridge if not yet completed, temporary bridge spans to move and get ready, tie cribbing to prep, and some other projects in the shop that need tending to..
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on July 11, 2018, 10:20:45 PM
Volunteers will be needed and welcome Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Saturdays every day this summer. Note that lunch is not provided on weekdays. Other "critical" work days will be posted when they are determined.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 12, 2018, 01:37:20 AM
Work done today, 7/11/18

Track work was done on the Water Tower switch, as well as looking at a few other things around the yard.

Work was then done with a decent sized crew on the mountain to allow work to continue with grading. See photos on the Mountain thread.

Back at Sheepsot a crew continued staining the bridge and prepping other materialsfor the bridge.

-Note: all names have been removed to protect the parties identity. In all honesty, I didn't want to leave anyone out and my memory with names is terrible.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 13, 2018, 11:53:42 PM
Crew call!  Tuesday, July 17 will be a big day.  Prep for abutments on site, including survey, hand leveling, silt fencing, haying.  Locating piles, etc.  If we have enough crew we’ll leave some folks at Sheepscot to continue abutment assembly. 

If we REALLY have enough folks, we’ll all line up along both sides of the bridge, pick it up, walk it north up 218, then walk it across the brook.

The last part is optional...

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Kevin Kierstead on July 14, 2018, 12:06:39 AM
Count me in for Tues/Wed. see you all in the AM by 9 but I'll try for earlier!
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on July 14, 2018, 09:16:48 PM
Work done on Saturday July 14:

* Mountain Extension: Mike moved the equipment from north of the bridge to end of the track.   Don't know what else he did.
* Bridge: Alan and crew started putting queenposts on one of the temp bridges.  Basically smaller sections of I-beams.  The truss rods will be rails.  Also people were slopping more preservative on the approach timbers.
* Weed whacking: A crew worked at Trask Crossing (sorry I forgot about it).

That (and train operations) was kind of it, as far as I could see.  Not a lot of projects happening today.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on July 14, 2018, 10:44:31 PM
The weed whacking crew attacked Trask Crossing today as well.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on July 15, 2018, 09:42:30 PM
Dave,

Was that you and HWMNBN on that crew?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Reidy on July 15, 2018, 10:08:33 PM
Dave,

Was that you and HWMNBN on that crew?

Jeff S.

It was Dave, Rich, Bob and me on that crew.  I am embarrassed to say I did not get Rich and Bob's last name.  Rich has volunteered in the past, and I believe this was Bob's first visit.  They both did a great job and I hope they have the opportunity to visit us more often.  We had some good laughs yesterday at Trask's -- great guys!

Not to mention clearing vegetation around a crossing goes a lot faster when you have four people working each quadrant!
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on July 15, 2018, 10:58:11 PM
Rich Curry, involved at MNG (at least he was in the past).
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 16, 2018, 12:04:05 AM
Rich is a very great guy, and lots of experience in the railroad field. He has been involved with Conway Scenic, MNG, and many other operations and is full of knowledge. And what makes all that knowledge all the better is he will not say anything he knows unless asked. He as been a volunteer with us since 2006-2007 and hopes to be able to come join us more often. Rich was one of the guys at Conway that took me under his wing and showed me some things. We have been in contact, and we both hope to see him become a regular part of our core group of guys.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on July 16, 2018, 03:00:51 AM
I second HWMNBN and Joe’s comments. Rich and Bob dove right in with big smiles on their faces. I look forward to seeing them again soon.
Dave
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on July 18, 2018, 10:58:44 AM
Anticipated work for weekend of July 21 - 22, 2018

* Bridge - assuming more preservative, more stain needed.  Plus there may need to be work at the bridge site.  And still more work on the temp bridge?
* Mountain Extension - stuff that Mike does, he may need help.
* Weed trimming
* Public operations - train, gift shop, tours
* Machine shop
* Track work
* Board meeting Saturday evening at 4:00 (postponed from last weekend).
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 18, 2018, 11:12:36 AM
Due to the extremely short track work window, track work (if any) will be tamping and jacking on Davis Grade. Tamper will be leaving between 6:30-7, and return to Sheepscot by 10:10. After if there are any extra hands we can do some brush and grass cutting along the ROW.

Track work and grass cutting will depend soley on how much help is on hand to fill the top priority projects.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on July 18, 2018, 09:55:46 PM
Change of plans. If I tamp Saturday it will be after the last train. I will now arrive around 8 to get tools and brush cutters ready to reassemble track on the Mountain, and brush cut the mountain area. Depending on crew spirits, I would like to brush cut some other areas as well later in the day. The Mountain track work needs to be done Saturday, and we will need 4-5 guys to make it happen. Ideally I want someone to bring us up there before the first train.
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on July 19, 2018, 01:47:18 AM
 Joe, et.al.,

 My sweet wife saw that I was pining around the house looking for forelorn so she gave me a day early reprieve to head toward Maine.  I made it as far as NY state tonight. I will arrive early afternoon tomorrow, Thursday, if any late help is needed.

I stopped at the Pennsylvania Railroad Museum to pick up the four break pot castings and the number 10 Smokebox shim casting that Wayne and Bernie have fabricated.  I also have the shim mold and a couple of other parts for Jason.

My early arrived will also give me all day Friday to help with whatever is being done around the campus. If I know what time your planning on starting Saturday I can be there to give you run up
to the top of the mountain as long as I can return to be conductor on the first train.

Bill
Title: Re: July 2018 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on July 19, 2018, 10:30:59 AM
Hi Bill,

I’ve sent you a PM about this Saturday’s train.  Plz check it out before locking in too many plans Saturday morning.  You should have time to run Joe up anyway.

It’ll be great to have you early, and for the month!

See ya
Jason