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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Whimsical Weirdness and Foolery => Topic started by: John Kokas on November 11, 2017, 05:39:27 PM

Title: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: John Kokas on November 11, 2017, 05:39:27 PM
One of the things I really miss from Maine is Moxie soda.  Picked up several cases on the way home from FWW but alas it's almost gone.  I can get it through Amazon or Walmart but the price with shipping was crazy.  So just for grins I googled Moxie and discovered that Moxie is being bottled under license by the Catawissa Bottling Company, Catawissa PA, (just across the Susquehanna from Bloomsburg).  So now I can pick some up on my trips to State College and not feel deprived anymore.  Yippee......... :)
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Mike Arnold on November 11, 2017, 06:00:58 PM
I can go to the local publex here in Florida and get ur as well. Cracker Barrel was the only place I could find it down here.
Mike
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Wayne Laepple on November 11, 2017, 06:13:59 PM
The Catawissa Bottling Co. is a step back in time. It's a very small operation owned by several members of the same family, and all their employees are related somehow. The equipment used for bottling is antique, to the point that they have to make their own parts. In addition to bottling Moxie, they also produce Big Ben's sodas, most notably birch beer in a variety of colors. Indeed, during the nation's bicentennial back in 1976, they sold cases of mixed red, white and blue birch beer. Big Ben, by the way, was the grandfather who started the business in 1926 and developed the formula for the birch beer. They've been at it since Prohibition, so they know what they're doing, and unless things have changed recently, if you buy soda by the case, that case is wooden! I think they finally gave up on returnable bottles since most folks apparently couldn't be bothered to return them. The bottling is a sideline for them nowadays; most of their effort is in wholesaling and distributing soda and beer to taverns and other retail outlets.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 11, 2017, 10:47:09 PM
Without offense to my Maine friends, there are several things that I can't buy here in Virginia.  Moxie being one of them, Australian Vegemite being another.  I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but one is either raised on it and loves it....... or....... well, that is why I travel North with cases of Cherry Coke or Dr. Pepper.  It's a childhood thing.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Wayne Laepple on November 11, 2017, 11:09:28 PM
BIll B. -- What? No Cheerwine?
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 12, 2017, 12:45:30 AM
Though Birch Beer was a drink of choice growing up, Moxie reminds me of the cough syrup I detested in the same growing up era. IMHO.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 12, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
Though Birch Beer was a drink of choice growing up, Moxie reminds me of the cough syrup I detested in the same growing up era. IMHO.

Back in my childhood, the hometown doc would mix his own cough syrup. It had a taste similar to Moxie, although uncarbonated. The first time I had a Moxie, it brought back that memory.

Jeff S
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Sample on November 15, 2017, 01:37:35 AM
Regarding Moxie, Catawissa was a Washington State counterpart, Orca Beverage of Mukilteo, near Seattle.  We got a nice tour of the plant from the manager, who really rolled out the red carpet for us when I told her I was a member of the Moxie Congress.  She said had they known of our visit ahead of time they could have made a Moxie run for us.  Both of these bottlers use cane sweetener, not corn.  My wife will drink the cane Moxies but the corn sweetened only as a last resort.   
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Gary Kraske on December 05, 2017, 12:58:31 AM
In my early childhood '41 - '45 I remember liking Moxie but when we moved back to Maine in 1949 I tried it and it tasted like burnt Birch Beer flavored pop!  Swore of it at that time.  P.S. I was 11 at the time.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Ira Schreiber on December 10, 2017, 12:40:14 AM
After looking at the Moose Brook bridge, it reminds me of the fellow who was walking along the deck counting the spaces between the timbers.
Not paying close attention, he walked of the unfinished end, falling into the brook.

Moral.
When you are out of slits, you are out of pier.........................................
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Baskerville on December 10, 2017, 03:05:27 AM
Ira,

And I though I invited whimsy and tomfoolery.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on December 10, 2017, 03:39:30 PM
 
After looking at the Moose Brook bridge, it reminds me of the fellow who was walking along the deck counting the spaces between the timbers.
Not paying close attention, he walked of the unfinished end, falling into the brook.

Moral.
When you are out of slits, you are out of pier.........................................

Ira,

Was he attacked by moose trout, once he fell in  :o??

Jeff S.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Ira Schreiber on December 10, 2017, 04:17:32 PM
No, but the donut he was munching on became thoroughly soaked hence the first DUNKIN DONUT.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Baskerville on December 10, 2017, 05:10:33 PM
Ira, Oh No!

Now we will either have to rewrite the history on the origin of Dunkin Donut's, or get a corrected version from Bill Reidy who, I have it on good authority, knows the true history of Dunkin Donut.

 ;D
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Gary Kraske on December 10, 2017, 05:56:47 PM
I remember getting Dunkin Donuts at a new shop in Glen Bernie, MD IN 1964.  I also knew that it was owned by a husband and wife team and they cleared $25,000 their first year, this while I was an electronic engineer grossing ~ $7,500 a year.  Granted that they worked their hides off!  I especially liked the original donut with the "dunking" handle!
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Reidy on December 10, 2017, 08:51:53 PM
I'm sayin' nothin' about Dunkin'!
Title: Moxie
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 22, 2018, 11:52:56 PM
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/20180822_140855_010_zpsbageoyej.jpg)

Is Jason savoring the Moxie after a hard day's work? :o

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on August 23, 2018, 12:01:36 AM
I'm not sure that one "savors" a Moxie...
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: John Kokas on August 23, 2018, 12:37:35 AM
Oh yes you do Ed!  I savor each and every one.  For those who would be interested, I am bringing a case of original recipe Moxie to FWW.  The stuff in the cans is corn syrup sweetener and a slightly different recipe.  My bottler in PA still makes it according to the original recipe with cane sugar and in glass bottles the way it used to be.  You can easily taste the difference.  8)
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: James Patten on August 23, 2018, 01:25:20 AM
I think there's a state law about importing Moxie into Maine.
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: John Kokas on August 23, 2018, 01:31:32 AM
Oh Wow!  A possible new career path for my retirement - Moxie Bootlegger  :o
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 23, 2018, 01:43:09 PM
Oh yes you do Ed!  I savor each and every one.  For those who would be interested, I am bringing a case of original recipe Moxie to FWW.  The stuff in the cans is corn syrup sweetener and a slightly different recipe.  My bottler in PA still makes it according to the original recipe with cane sugar and in glass bottles the way it used to be.  You can easily taste the difference.  8)

John,

Would that be the Catawissa Bottling Co.?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: John Kokas on August 23, 2018, 09:07:42 PM
Right on the money Jeff, my favorite beverage (non-alcoholic) distributor.  They also make a mean birch beer.
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: Wayne Laepple on August 23, 2018, 11:52:08 PM
Multiple colors of birch beer, no less! Red, white, blue, caramel, clear and beer-color.
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: Carl Soderstrom on August 24, 2018, 05:12:41 AM
John
In the new language = beverage expediter.
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: Alex Harvilchuck on August 25, 2018, 11:48:03 AM
Oh yes you do Ed!  I savor each and every one.  For those who would be interested, I am bringing a case of original recipe Moxie to FWW.  The stuff in the cans is corn syrup sweetener and a slightly different recipe.  My bottler in PA still makes it according to the original recipe with cane sugar and in glass bottles the way it used to be.  You can easily taste the difference.  8)

John,

Would that be the Catawissa Bottling Co.?

Jeff S.


Everyone knows the best Moxie comes from Pennsylvania. It's just like drinking a Guinness n' Dublin me boyo!

Catawissa Bottling Company produced the Moxie brand of soda under license from 1945 to 1967. In 1978, the company again contracted to produce Moxie, which it continues to produce to this day in addition to selling Moxie collectibles and paraphernalia.

So ya'all are drinking that fake Moxie in a can! Maybe you'll get the bridge and all that track done faster with REAL Moxie like Popeye with his spinach!  ;D
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: Stephen Piwowarski on August 25, 2018, 12:22:10 PM
We sell the real stuff up at the Sheepscot General on Townhouse Rd. in Whitefield. I don't think it comes from PA but it is made with cane sugar.

Steve
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 25, 2018, 01:56:57 PM
Steve,

Does it come in a bottle?

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Moxie
Post by: John Kokas on August 25, 2018, 03:04:07 PM
According to my info, only Catawissa still makes Moxie the old way and in glass bottles.  The main Moxie plant in Mass. only does cans.  Now is there another independent bottler up in New England who makes it the old way?  Would be interesting to see if Moxie could become the official railroad beverage.  It does cover the time period of the railroad, and moxie ice cream floats are really good!
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bob Holmes on August 25, 2018, 11:26:18 PM
YES, Moxie as the official beverage of the WW&F!  Make available at official functions such as the Ice Cream Social (but be sure to have other options available as well).
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Reidy on August 26, 2018, 12:09:49 AM
I did observe conductor Jason enjoying a can today as his first class steam train waited on the lower yard turntable lead for our second class train to arrive and discharge passengers before his train could take the platform...
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 26, 2018, 02:06:01 PM
Perhaps Jason should be the official museum spokesperson for Moxie. ::)

Jeff S.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: John Kokas on August 26, 2018, 10:15:54 PM
I know where to get a Moxie T-shirt for him.  How about a calendar pic for next years WW&F calendar and send a copy to the Moxie folks - who knows maybe a corporate sponsorship!
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on August 26, 2018, 11:24:05 PM
Why not a photo of all the Moxie lovers at FWW? :o We could stand in front of #9 holding our bottles/cans of Moxie.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Sample on August 27, 2018, 01:55:40 AM
My wife Sue and I had a tour of another Moxie bottler - Orca Beverage of Mukilteo, Washington.  The manager told us if we had requested ahead of time, they would have run Moxie on the bottling line.  To my knowledge the Mukilteo and Catawissa Moxie products both use cane sugar.  Sue will drink those but usually not the local corn-sweetener produced offering.
I like them all.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: John Kokas on August 27, 2018, 12:15:12 PM
Jeff,

Though some might think it a bit corny, I really like your idea of a group picture.  I really think we might get some sponsorship or a donation from all of this.  How about a "Moxie" boxcar for a photographers special consist?
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Baskerville on August 27, 2018, 01:24:28 PM
A talented member could always Photoshop the Moxie logo onto 309 in a train consist.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on August 28, 2018, 05:17:50 PM
Grab a Moxie and a smile.
Or I'd like to teach the world to Moxie?
https://www.pressherald.com/2018/08/28/coca-cola-acquires-moxie-soda-beloved-in-maine/ (https://www.pressherald.com/2018/08/28/coca-cola-acquires-moxie-soda-beloved-in-maine/)

It's the real thing.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Bill Reidy on August 28, 2018, 05:45:46 PM
You beat me, Ed.  I just saw the story on boston.com:

https://www.boston.com/news/business/2018/08/28/coca-cola-acquires-moxie-soda-beloved-in-maine
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: John Kokas on August 28, 2018, 10:53:15 PM
Hmmmm…….  I know for a fact that Coke has a corporate sponsor program.  Preserving heritage and cultural identity (hmmm), isn't that what we are doing?  Sounds like the museum and Moxie are heading the same way.
Title: Re: OMG! You can get Moxie in PA......
Post by: Harold Downey on September 01, 2018, 01:50:47 PM
I just heard a segment about Moxie on NPR:

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/01/643922040/coca-cola-buys-moxie-soda

For the railroad connection:  they interviewed people in the Railroad Pub in Lisbon Falls.