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Title: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 01, 2017, 12:09:09 PM
Anticipated work for Saturday November 4:

* Albion Day: our day to give Albion Historical Society support for their Albion Station.  As Dave mentioned, there will be weed whacking, archaeology, and potentially work on the building and on the track.
For those left back to Sheepscot:
* Car 67
* Storm cleanup
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 04, 2017, 10:15:25 PM
Albion Report:

* Grass & tree clearing: Several people spent the morning weed whacking at Albion, in and around the turntable pit.  Also a chain saw took care of some trees.  We also trimmed in between the tracks, and south to the property line.
* Archaeology: After lunch, Phil had brought a metal detector so we tried to find metal in the pit.  The detector found things, but we weren't sure what.  The detector holder moved to where the engine house was, and eventually found tie remnants.  In the pit itself, Alan started digging around a square "rock" in the ground, eventually getting it out.  The rock was cast concrete, and had a hole through it.  It may have been part of the wall by the track, but we don't know.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 05, 2017, 12:01:44 AM
Sheepscot Report:

About 8 of us were at Sheepscot while the guys were enjoying the lunch up  to the Albion Roadkill Café.

We did various chores. First being finishing an emergency drainage ditch Brendan started last weekend.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/Wash%20Out%20Repair%2011.4.17_zpsgfnp3aal.jpg)

Next, I started helping with the Bridge project, being joined by Leon in the morning, and Dwight and Leon after lunch, with an occasional observation by Fred.
See the Bridge thread for a pictoral report on our progress.

Stewart was busy with Fire Department business first thing, then he came to Sheepscot and busied himself with repairs to the Garden Shed. He carefully cut the remaining tree off (and out of) the roof.

We all left, and I decided to try my luck with the access road we used for the washout. Many limbs were in her road, which I tossed out. But the road stayed in good repair, except what I found at the end. See the Down the Mountain thread for pictures of that.

Also, there was a Train Show today in Topsham, Steve and Annie P. went, along with Marcel. They were back early, and I heard some chatter about a fire alarm (Annie get bored Steve? :) ) and they were instructed to pack it up.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 05, 2017, 12:27:18 AM
OOPs, how could I forget. Once the ditch was filled, Fred took a crew North and unloaded the Flat Car full of Ties. Empty now so Fred can cut another hundred..
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 05, 2017, 04:33:39 AM
Mike, Where is the bridge thread?
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 05, 2017, 12:58:45 PM
Ira,

The Bridge Thread is at:

W.W.&F. Discussion Forum » WW&F Railway Museum Discussion » Work and Events » Trout Brook Bridge - Official Work Thread

or

http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php/topic,2553.195.html#lastPost

or

http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php/board,5.0.html


Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 05, 2017, 06:35:38 PM
Thanks.
My computer did not load that addition until after I had sent the message.
Ira
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 08, 2017, 12:04:55 PM
Anticipated work for Saturday November 11 (formerly Armistice Day, now Veteran's Day):

* Boxcar 67
* Bridge assembly work
* #10 boiler work
* Storm cleanup
* SS area mainline: it would be nice to ballast this on the east side, jack it, and tamp it.  As many of you know, it is way out of level between the two switches.  And we don't have to worry about dodging passenger trains.
* Car 65 retrieval in the morning.
* Old tie pickup alongside track, and tie stacking at ToM.
* ToM phone box installation.
* Board meeting at 4.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Dwight Winkley on November 08, 2017, 02:09:42 PM
Fred wants to take 52 and a empty flatcar north. Stopping on the way to pick up the used ties that were removed this summer. These ties will be used as ground ties for more tie piles next year at saw mill spur.
There is one pile of ties that is not stacked correctly, plus a few loose ties laying on the ground and this will be corrected.
dwight
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 08, 2017, 02:25:47 PM
I believe we will be changing how we handle ties, so the planning needs to start now before any more are moved to the Mill Siding. The new way will cut down on handling. Still in the planning stages. More info soon.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Brendan Barry on November 08, 2017, 05:30:17 PM
Car 65 retrieval and unloading Saturday morning.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: John McNamara on November 08, 2017, 10:00:49 PM
Anticipated work for Saturday November 11 (formerly Armistice Day, now Veteran's Day):
I'd like to add a late Saturday morning trip to TOM to install (and possibly test) a telephone box at TOM.
-John M (Chief Ding-a-ling)
 
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 09, 2017, 03:06:04 AM
John,

I really like that self assigned title.  It takes a real man to know his strengths.

Bill
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 12, 2017, 12:39:52 AM
Work done on November 11, 2017:

* #10 flanging: Jason and Alan rigged up another piece to test with, and it seemed to work (except it got really bent itself in the process).
* Stone/ties: Morning train to AC, we stopped to pick up old ties alongside the ROW.  We left the ones that appeared to be intending to replace a tie.  We got 1.5 flatcar loads of stone and returned to SS, where we ballasted the woods track.
* SS mainline: We got out jacks, had the coaches moved, and jacked up in front of the station platform.  Someone had suggested that we shovel tamp rather than get the tamper out, however that same someone wasn't there when we went to work.  We did try shovel tamping, then bar tamping, before I got the tamper out.  The tamper worked for a while, then the hydraulic motor stopped working.  We only got the immediate platform area done.
* Trailer: The trailer was up on jacks while Brendan replaced/repaired brake lights and wiring.  No getting 65 today.
* #9: The engine's smoke box was cleaned up by Dan, who did a very good job keeping most of it off himself.  Gordon was working on something in the cab.
* ToM Phone box: I don't have a report about that, I know a train did go out for that.
* Board meeting: We started early at 3:55, broke up at 6.  President Dave suggested a new format which would hopefully keep things moving.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 12, 2017, 02:08:05 AM
Forklift got some TLC today. Oil & filter changes, fuel filter cleaned, and the clutch pedal was worked on, finding and replacing springs.

Gravel was placed where the electric building will go. Zack would like it to settle for the winter.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 12, 2017, 03:17:11 PM
* ToM Phone box: I don't have a report about that, I know a train did go out for that.

John McNamara placed new phone box in service at TOM. Tested and Passed. Even Fred said it sounded good.

While John was busy tinkering, Fred, Dwight and I stacked 75 ties on the Mill Siding.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 12, 2017, 09:20:32 PM
Betcha it would make ordering lunch pizza a lot easier up there. ;D
Will the phone line be eventually extended to 218 EOT?
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 12, 2017, 10:41:45 PM
Considering that the Magneto telephone system is our primary communication device between stations, train crews, and dispatcher, I fully expect that it will continue to be extended as the track proceeds northward. The mag phone is far more reliable than cell phones along our railroad.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 12, 2017, 10:44:57 PM
Yes. Hopefully buried. I am planning on building a knife that would hook on the bucket of the excavator and bury all new wire. This will hopefully eliminate some of the trouble we have been having with loss of service.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: John McNamara on November 13, 2017, 01:22:33 AM
For a long time I was very discouraged by magneto telephone line problems, but Brendan's replacement of the Sheepscot to Brook Crossing wire, Fred/Jason/SteveZ's line extension, and Fred's trouble shooting north of Alna Center have breathed new life into the system and boosted my enthusiam. During Fall Work Weekend, I temporarily installed the phone box that had been the object of vandalism and rodent damage at EOT into a new location at TOM. Since then I have refurbished the box and attempted to prevent the incursion of insects that would tempt rodents. I have left the box unlocked for ease of emergency access and to reveal to vandals that the interior is very uninteresting (no iPhone10 within).

There is further work to be done. The telephone mounting within the box needs improvement (shorter non-Phillips screws), and the weather-tight conduit needs to be painted or otherwise made less-modern. The insect-proofing could be improved with weather stripping around the door.

Given the now excellent transmission (replacement of the old F-1 transmitter element), I see no reason that the line couldn't be extended to 218 (and beyond).

-John M
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 13, 2017, 04:50:49 AM
As kids on Staten Island, we discovered a phone magneto box in my grandmother's cellar that put out quite a zap when cranked. A really snotty, curious kid up the block got two bracelets wired to his wrists by my bro, let out a helluva  wail!
 
Never bugged us again.  ;)
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 13, 2017, 05:11:04 AM
My uncle was a NY Telephone tech in the Wall Street area, taught us kids basic phone practice; I later helped the overworked tech at Philips' now-closed 2400-phone, Abq chip plant; also did some installation at Intel's nearby, newest Rio Rancho plant.
Phone work is interesting and  necessary.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on November 13, 2017, 02:03:35 PM
Years ago I worked for a farmer here in Minnesota. Back in the late 40's there was little rural phone service. His neighborhood got together and built a magneto phone system with old phones. 10 or 15 years later when the phone company came through they made sure that they " bought them out" even though it was an informal arrangement. I guess they could have formed a company and been competition to the big boys because they were there first.
Mike Nix
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 13, 2017, 05:35:21 PM
You DO NOT argue with 'the phone company'!  >:(  ;)
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 15, 2017, 12:11:45 PM
Anticipated work for Saturday Nov 18:

* Car 67
* Bridge
* Top of Mountain
* Storm clean up - there's still a lot of debris left alongside the track that should be cleaned up before Christmas/snow.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 18, 2017, 10:55:57 PM
Work done on Saturday Nov 18:

* Bridge: Tim the Bridge Guy was there, notching out some of the under timbers.  I ran the tractor for him.  He got 4 timbers notched.
* Storm clean up: the tree by the water tower was cleaned up and reclaimed for #9's firebox, then more trees further up the line were dealt with.
* Store merchandise: Linda and I made a concerted effort to consolidate some boxes of merchandise upstairs, enough so that we could bring over the Two Foot Musings boxes that have been living in the kitchen for the last several months.  Meanwhile Bob helped rearrange the gift shop for Christmas refreshments.
* Archives: Linda did some archivy stuff.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 19, 2017, 01:08:14 AM
Some finishing touches were done off site early this morning on the permit notifications our abutters will be getting.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 19, 2017, 05:44:24 AM
How's almost-done 67 doing with its coming roof, doors and hardware in the 'new' repair ship/dance hall?
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 19, 2017, 01:01:53 PM
67 is waiting for a forging day.  Some of the existing metal for ladders/etc are bent and need to be straightened, plus there's some missing.  I think we still need to build a track for the door, too.  I don't know when any of this is happening.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Dwight Winkley on November 19, 2017, 06:47:58 PM
The steel for 67 has arrived from our suppler. It is on the floor of bay 3.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on November 19, 2017, 09:12:33 PM
Oooh. A forging day sounds fun. :)
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on November 20, 2017, 01:21:18 AM
Box67 forging cheduled for this week.  Likely go into next week.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 20, 2017, 01:40:26 AM
Sounds like a bunch of round bar stirrup cutting and bending, maybe some door track angle cutting and fitting.
So none of any existing steel parts can be heated, straightened for re-use?
Too bad.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Dwight Winkley on November 20, 2017, 08:37:00 PM
We have a few metal parts that can be reused. Some require work. But not a complete set of metal parts for one box car.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 20, 2017, 09:11:53 PM
Makes sense.
Happy bending, cutting and bolting.  ;)
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 22, 2017, 12:15:08 PM
Anticipated work for Saturday Nov 25 - time to work off those calories from Thanksgiving!

* Boxcar 67
* Bridge
* Storm cleanup - I don't know what is left to do
* Ties and ToM
* Organizing the campus, moving dirt around.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 22, 2017, 02:04:23 PM
Organizing the campus.. Got a pile of dirt to move, and a spot to get ready to receive the dirt.

Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Fred Morse on November 22, 2017, 03:28:10 PM
There's probably at least Three days of trees to clean up along the railroad.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 22, 2017, 03:29:47 PM
Curiosity calls... :o what spot needs dirt?  around the base of the new ramp to the house?

While on the dirt subject...  ;D how far was the ballast laid up the woods track?  I can see in the pictures it got beyond the tool house and perhaps as far as the invisible green box.  Was this the first covering of ballast or were the tracks surfaced, aligned and dressed?
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 22, 2017, 03:55:00 PM
Bill,
Next to the container. I would like to create a spot for the stuff we don't want to toss, but too ugly to look at. Part of my pet peeve is the disorganized appearance that our visitors are presented pulling in our parking lot. We will never get rid of the disorganized stuff, but I want to make it so it is unseen..or at least organized.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 22, 2017, 04:00:02 PM
Ballast was placed up to about the tool shed - or maybe a bit beyond that. The main goal was to get ballast through the switches in the North Yard, anything beyond that was a bonus.

It was just an initial covering of ballast; it was not lined/dressed/tamped.

Also, small trees that were starting to pop up along/near/within the woods track were removed.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Dwight Winkley on November 22, 2017, 09:52:22 PM
One short section (about 6 ties) of the woods track was skipped before the Woods Shed. ROW has a high spot. Clay needs to be dug out before stone is added to ROW
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 25, 2017, 10:45:08 PM
The pile that was from the hole for the electrical building was removed this afternoon.
Fred and I made 30 trips or more with the tractor


(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/1125171619_zpspl7qjd2m.jpg)
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: James Patten on November 26, 2017, 01:13:21 AM
Work done on Saturday Nov 25:

* Mike did some maintenance on the forklift and was starting to put it to use when I left for ...
* ROW cleanup: A bunch of us went out with the two flatcars and cleaned up pretty much everything that was left from the storm on the entire line.  There's a few minor things here and there but we took care of most things.
* Yard cleanup (above): Mike and Fred's Excellent Tractor Adventures
* Boiler flanging: Alan was working on something to better facilitate the flange on the backhead.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 26, 2017, 03:14:48 PM
Work done on Saturday Nov 25:


* Yard cleanup (above): Mike and Fred's Excellent Tractor Adventures


Did Mike and Fred take turns running the tractor :o???
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 26, 2017, 03:44:14 PM
My understanding is that the Prebles Flag Stop building, shown in the background of the above picture, is no longer planned to be used as the electrical distribution house.  Where will it now be located?
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Dwight Winkley on November 26, 2017, 06:53:35 PM
Prebles will stay where it is now located. Visitors for special events go to this Ticket window to get their boarding pass for the next train North. Track 1 (or A) at Sheepscott Station or Track 2 ( or B) beside the Car Barn.  The ticket agents do have heat, but not much with the window (upper half of the door) open all the time.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 26, 2017, 07:09:33 PM
Work done on Saturday Nov 25:


* Yard cleanup (above): Mike and Fred's Excellent Tractor Adventures


Did Mike and Fred take turns running the tractor :o???

Yes. I got a good start, and Fred decided to spell me so I could bulldoze..
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Paul Uhland on November 26, 2017, 08:02:58 PM
How about moving  the "ticket office" to a more convenient place half way between loading tracks, and paint it, eliminating its grungy look? Ewww.
Mike's right..spending money to visit a junky-looking place doesn't turn me on.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 26, 2017, 10:32:43 PM
Not quite how I put it. We will be putting more effort into organizing our storage habbits. I have a plan, but am not sure how much can be accomplished this year.
The big problems have been dealt with already, to make room for the bridge.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on November 27, 2017, 10:51:07 AM
Prebles is sided in un-treated cedar shingles because that’s how the original Prebles is finished.  Part of the charm of the narrow gauge.

Prebles may move to another location, to serve as a flag stop, as we’ve discussed a few options.  We’ll need an alternate solution to issuing tickets for events, however, as Preble’s current use for that purpose is a critical piece of reducing overcrowding (and increasing safety) in the freight shed during those times.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 27, 2017, 12:33:38 PM
Just thoughts off the top of my balding head, would expanding the planned electrical distribution house with two small unconnected rooms with two independent outside doors be an option?  A small room for ticket sales add a larger room for the electrical panels. 

Alternatively two rooms with one outside door into the small ticket space with an interior door into the larger electrical room.  It could be designed with a dutch door for summer events and the dutch door could have a small sales window for the winter events to keep more of the heat in.  A variation could be a full door with a dedicated sales window like at movie houses.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: John McNamara on November 27, 2017, 01:23:17 PM
Bill's idea is an excellent step toward making the electrical distribution building an ambience inhancement rather than just a functional one.
-John
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Dave Crow on November 27, 2017, 02:08:23 PM
I'm sure Josh Recave will be able to determine the minimum size required for the electrical distribution building, based on the National Electrical Code's minimum access requirements in front of the equipment.  If the panels or other gear have rear access then the Code has clearance requirements as well; you're talking at least 3 feet in front of the equipment at a minimum.  And... nothing can be stored in the access space in front of the equipment.

Just my two cents.

Dave Crow
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 27, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
Dave is correct and Josh clearly knows his stuff.  The distance required for clear space in front of panels (there is a width requirement also) is a function of the voltage contained within the panel.  The higher the voltage, the greater the distance. 

Having a separate 'room' for the electrical panels allows a limited key access to that space to keep storage items from infringing into that space.  Think clean up after a big event with a rain coming... "Lets just put it in here until we can put it away later." is how clear space attracts clutter.  Stuff abhors an empty floor or clean bench surface.

Once Josh defines the space he needs we can look at one wall to see how much length or width to add for our "ticket window".  Keep in mind that a small roof extension over the "ticket window" will be a boon on damp or snowy days.

Alternatively, the two outside door option would probably be a better option.  This would allow the 'ticket agents' to use their space as they wish with out fear of their "inadvertently" putting stuff (see above reference to how 'stuff' moves around) in front of of the 'seldom used' door to the electrical room.

Just food for thought that may have already been considered.

Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 27, 2017, 03:07:04 PM
I'm trying to picture where the Prebles flagstop is currently located, in relationship to the location of the electrical service, but am drawing a blank.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Wayne Laepple on November 27, 2017, 03:20:45 PM
Well, let me comment on this, based on a space in an auxiliary building at my other place, the Railroad Museum of Penna. It's an insulated lean-to on our pole barn paint shop. It contains a large air compressor and two transformers. The transformers give off enough residual heat that it keeps the entire space (about 8 X 16 feet) above freezing except during the coldest periods.

That said, I wonder if a structure housing the electrical gear at one end, separated from the rest of the space by a wire mesh wall with a locked gate, would do the trick. After all, we're talking about a relatively small space required for ticket sales that will only be used half a dozen times annually, and only once or twice during cold weather. And since it's the electrical building, too, some electric heat should be easily arranged.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 27, 2017, 04:15:23 PM
Jeff,

Hi,  :), take a look at page 3 of this thread near the bottom and you will see Prebles flagstop near the Cross Road end of the machine shop beyond the gray power feed electrical conduits sticking up out of the ground recently graded by Mike.

Bill
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 27, 2017, 04:43:42 PM
The electrical building will be just that. Electrical. It is designed in such a way the only practical side to add anything to would be the side toward the house, and that is unlikely to happen.

And besides, it really does not want to be any bigger than needed, because of it's location on the south side of the Turntable.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 27, 2017, 08:03:10 PM
I think the better long(ish) term solution is to convert the Percival House first floor into a Visitor's Center/Giftshop as has been discussed many times. That's where tickets should be purchased every operating day (not just for special events.)

Then use Prebles as a flagstop as it was intended somewhere out on the line.

But until then, it's probably best using Prebles as the ticket window for special events.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on November 27, 2017, 08:10:40 PM
Another big thing to keep in mind, our visitors, both railfan and non railfan already comment on how "crowded" our main yard looks from buildings. Often reffered to as "Tent City", our campus is starting to appear more modern and loose its historical appearance. Imagine how more cluttered it will look when a roundhouse and coal facility are built.

Might as well build one giant pole barn over the parkong lot, add a few rooms as needed, then we have a place to house our tired vehicles, etc.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Joe Fox on November 27, 2017, 08:20:05 PM
I still wish there was a way to have built the electric room in the basement of the house like the original plan was. Any model railroaders will get this term, instead of our museum looking like a spaghetti bowl of track, it looks like a spaghetti bowl of buildings. 
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Reidy on November 27, 2017, 11:27:47 PM
And besides, it really does not want to be any bigger than needed, because of it's location on the south side of the Turntable.

Yes.  It's very unfortunate where the electrical building will be located, but I understand the need for it to be in this spot.  I would rather not see it be any bigger than is absolutely required.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bob Holmes on November 28, 2017, 03:08:25 AM
One thought about Prebles is that it could be the flag stop at ToM, as that area is developed as a destination (saw mill, shingle mill, etc.).

Why not design and build an actual ticket office/booth specifically for that purpose?  It could be stored out-of-sight when not in use, but be positioned in the best place for ticketed events.

We move huge timbers around at will, so transporting a tiny ticket booth should be no problem.

If properly designed and planned ahead, it could be built in a weekend (don't we have some previous experience with that idea?!)

Bob
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bill Baskerville on November 28, 2017, 03:40:28 AM
Bob,

Plus we now have that great big forklift with which to move things around.  All we have to do is construct it on a proper frame. 

In fact we could make a frame for the Prebles Flag Stop so it could be relocated as needed now until it is time for it to be transported to it's final destination.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 28, 2017, 03:07:06 PM
I think the better long(ish) term solution is to convert the Percival House first floor into a Visitor's Center/Giftshop as has been discussed many times. That's where tickets should be purchased every operating day (not just for special events.)


I disagree. You don't buy your train ticket in a house, you buy it at the station, or in this case, the freight station. And, believe it or not, there is some historical significance regarding the WW&F. As many of you know, there was a small freight shed located at Sheepscot, at one time. When the flagstop burned down, a portion of the freight shed was converted to a ticket office. There is a photo in one of the Narrow Gauge in the Sheepcot Valley books.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Mike Fox on November 28, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
Jeff,
That building is our current tool house, across from the water tank
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on November 28, 2017, 08:29:44 PM
Jeff,
That building is our current tool house, across from the water tank

The tool house was the final flagstop station at Sheepscot. On p 61 of Vol. 6 of Narrow Gauge in the Sheepscot Valley, there is a photo of the combination freight shed/flagstop that predates that.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Bob Holmes on November 29, 2017, 04:28:42 AM
Jeff, all that is nice.  But when we need a ticket booth for high volume events such as Victorian Christmas, why not have one that will serve that specific purpose and can then be put away the rest of the year so as not to detract from our historical mission.
Title: Re: November 2017 Work Planning
Post by: Carl Soderstrom on November 29, 2017, 06:59:11 AM
Paint the elec. house so it disappears (Invisible paint?)

A movable booth should be painted in WW&F RR colors.

Make it so forks will fit under. And you might consider being able to lift it with 3 point hitch.
If it had wheels like a Fish House, any vehicle with a hitch could move it.
Don't forget the floor insulation - 3 or 4 sheets of corrugated cardboard and a piece of carpet should do it.

This was posted at the Arlo & Janis Village

https://www.railserve.com/steamspecials.html

Victorian Christmas is listed.