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Title: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Richard Cavalloro on October 22, 2017, 01:38:09 AM
I'm hoping to make my first visit to the museum for Victorian Christmas.  Are there any cost effective hotels in the area?   Would be 2 couples.  Anything going on at the museum Friday afternoon or Sunday morning?   Would like to make a weekend of it.
 Thanks
 Rick
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on October 22, 2017, 03:00:54 AM
There are some lodging suggestions on this thread:
http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php/topic,3058.0.html
(The Wiscasset Woods Lodge will be closed during Victorian Christmas.)

I suspect that there will be preparations for VC underway on Friday. Nothing formal, but you may want to stop by before it gets dark. That will also give you some time to explore the museum campus without all the crowds. Likewise I strongly suspect that nothing will be going on Sunday morning, as the volunteers will need to recuperate from Saturday's barriage.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: James Patten on October 22, 2017, 08:22:26 PM
Remember that VC is two Saturdays this year - December 16 & 23.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Stephen Piwowarski on October 23, 2017, 12:54:47 AM
Also, note that tickets for VC will likely be by reservation this year. Details will be available shortly. The goal is to ease this parking situation and disperse the crowds more evenly across the day. Stay posted!

Steve
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Mark Spremulli on October 24, 2017, 02:31:01 AM
There are some lodging suggestions on this thread:
http://forum.wwfry.org/index.php/topic,3058.0.html
(The Wiscasset Woods Lodge will be closed during Victorian Christmas.)

I suspect that there will be preparations for VC underway on Friday. Nothing formal, but you may want to stop by before it gets dark. That will also give you some time to explore the museum campus without all the crowds. Likewise I strongly suspect that nothing will be going on Sunday morning, as the volunteers will need to recuperate from Saturday's barriage.
There is also a Residence Inn By Marriott in Bath, which isn't far from the museum at all. They also have kitchenettes which could save you money on food.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Richard Cavalloro on October 24, 2017, 02:55:43 AM
Thanks Guys.  We've both working the weekend of the 23rd so it would need to be the 16th.  Was hoping to maybe lend a hand Friday and then play tourist on Saturday.   
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Alex Harvilchuck on October 24, 2017, 11:29:18 PM
While surfing around looking for places to link to on social media, I spotted...

http://www.midcoastmaineinns.com/

Which claims to list availability of B&Bs in the region. Caveat Emptor.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 16, 2017, 12:38:44 AM
Reservations are now being accepted for all Victorian Christmas trains, December 16 & 23 2017.
Click here to reserve your boarding pass:
http://wwfrytickets.simpletix.com/Event/32102/VictorianChristmas/ (http://wwfrytickets.simpletix.com/Event/32102/VictorianChristmas/)

Passes are free, but reservations are recommended so to avoid long lines and cold waits for the trip to Alna Center to visit Santa and partake in the magic of Christmas Holiday Cheer.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: John McNamara on November 16, 2017, 02:09:53 AM
Passes are free, but reservations are recommended so to avoid long lines and cold waits for the trip to Alna Center to visit Santa and partake in the magic of Christmas Holiday Cheer.
So far, our on-line literature talks of tickets, passes, and reservations. Multiple words for the same thing seems a bit confusing. Assuming a person gets a ticket/pass/reservation in one's http://wwfrytickets.simpletix.com/Event/32102/VictorianChristmas/ basket, and picks it up at "Will Call", what happens next? Do they get preferred boarding?

"We are now ready to begin boarding our Golden Spike members (ticket/pass/reservation holders)."
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on November 16, 2017, 02:40:44 AM
At the Nov BOD meeting I heard that they were specifically called boarding passes (which are free) and not tickets (which are paid.) I will yield to other BOD members if that has changed.

Those with reservations pick up their passes at the ticket window, and get guaranteed seating on the train that they reserved.

Those without reservations are given passes for the next available train, up to that train's capacity.

We are encouraging visitors to make reservations, but will be holding passes for each train in order to accommodate those who did not know to reserve seats in advance.

Then the train crew just boards the passengers with the appropriate boarding pass for that train.

@Jason - please chime in if I don't have this right.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on November 16, 2017, 12:55:07 PM
An operative change (actually started during Easter Eggspress) is that we will form a boarding line only for the next train.  Only folks with a boarding pass for the next train will be in that line, like waiting for a specific movie at a theater.  We’ll have signs and volunteers that help folks understand that, and will have activities (such as Eric’s model trains) to give folks something to do since we don’t want them waiting in line till the right time.

Everyone in a boarding line for a specific train will need a boarding pass for that specific train.  It doesn’t matter how they got the pass (ticket booth walk-up line, will-call line, or black market).  Once in the line with the correct boarding pass, all are equal. 

The number of boarding passes per train are intentionally a little lower than the actual capacity of the train, so we have a little wiggle room for misunderstandings. 

The total number of boarding passes gives a total event (both days) capacity of 1600, broken down as 900 on Dec 16 and 700 on Dec 23.  These limits were our best effort at optimizing the limiting capacities of all parts of the event: parking, people flow, AC activities, etc.  In years past only train capacity was considered; we’re trying to grow beyond that mentality.

We have only made 1/2 of the total number of boarding passes available by reservation.  In this way, we reserve a substantial portion of our capacity for folks who don’t know about or choose to use the reservation system.

This is a working experiment; we hope it helps make the event more predictable and enjoyable for visitors and volunteers alike, and we hope to learn from it and make improvements as necessary.

Thanks,
Jason

Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on November 17, 2017, 05:12:47 AM
Now that there is a dance floor :) in the shop will you use that to get people out of the wind?

There are some areas that will have to be restricted but it would make a decent overflow waiting space.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on November 17, 2017, 10:34:34 AM
Current plan is to put Eric’s models in there.  That way it can stay up for the week.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Richard "Steam" Symmes on November 18, 2017, 03:34:11 AM
All this, "boarding pass, reservation, ticket," talk is beginning to sound like the airlines.  And we know what that's like.  Or the long ago days of gasoline shortage lines in 1973 with, "odd / even" days, etc.   I suspect many casual visitors will not have heard about the protocol of obtaining a ride. You will have "standby" passes / tickets for them you say, but this begins to sound like a Chinese fire drill.  It will be interesting to see how it goes. 
  RWS
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on November 18, 2017, 05:13:23 AM
Jason
Well people will be entertained - even if they cannot dance.

Will be quite a layout if it fills that space.

Please post pix.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Richard "Steam" Symmes on November 18, 2017, 10:31:37 PM
Phone apps too?  Jump the line, like Dunkin' Donuts.  All this reminds me of the wonderful days back at South Carver, Mass. at the original Edaville Railroad during the run-up to Christmas.  4 steam trains on the main line at once.  Long lines of folks waiting to board the next train after it emptied out. No cell phone zombies.  Just happy families engaged in conversation as they waited their turn.  We rode it every year. Had some great cab rides too. Things were pretty laid back and casual in those days.  God, how I miss that place.
  Dono Treply
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Charlie Lacasse on November 18, 2017, 10:59:48 PM
Greetings all. I'm not sure if this is the correct spot for this, but here goes. I was just informed that work is temporarily closing my plant in Lewiston, and in Brunswick and moving its employees (from 2nd and 3rd shifts) to its merchandise distribution center in Freeport to assist with customer orders. Unfortunately I'll be working a six day week work schedule from now until Christmas or after.  I was supposed to work with Bob heating up the water and cider for our guests so he will need some help with this as I am sorry to say I will be detained at work. Thankyou in advance, and I was really looking forward to being able to help out with the Victorian Christmas, As I did last year. It was lots of fun. It just goes to show, this has been a crazy year for me in the work area, and hopefully things in the work field won't be so crazy after the new year comes around. Hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving, and A merry Christmas.  I'll be up at the railroad again as soon as I can.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Michael McCormack on November 18, 2017, 11:25:45 PM
Richard you are not the only one that misses Edaville. For many years I lifted tickets on the Sunday Christmas Festival of Lights trains. My reward was usually a cab ride with Fred Richardson in #7. His favorite engine as well as mine!  A fine gentleman and very much missed.  You never know what you've got until it's gone.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Richard "Steam" Symmes on November 19, 2017, 04:31:25 PM
Yes, the late Fred Richardson was a true gentleman. We had the privilege of interviewing him on video a while before he passed away.  He was sitting in his living room and we spent the afternoon covering a range of topics, mostly about the history of Edaville and of course about Nelson Blount.  Edited down, the interview is about an hour long and we can supply copies on DVD to anyone interested in having one.  Contact me for details as to price, delivery time, etc.
  Richard
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Mike Fox on December 15, 2017, 07:53:57 PM
Jason sent me some pictures of the prep work this week..

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/IMG_6875_zpscy74o8g0.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/IMG_6885_zpsd9rlpxmj.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/IMG_6892_zps1mb9puju.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/IMG_6901_zpse7i2pvmq.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/IMG_6903_zpsue6bjmcd.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/IMG_6928_zpszazlzgvf.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/IMG_6930_zpszd1nwilw.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Mike Fox on December 16, 2017, 11:01:12 PM
2nd to last Steam Train coming south past the North Yard Switch

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/1216171440i_zpswhxwgeuh.jpg)

Mr & Mrs Clause caught short breaks throughout the day, but not for long..and photographer Kevin Madore prepares to catch some shots of the families as the disembark

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/1216171451b_zpsdo8gte3y.jpg)

And just to show there are other trains besides steam that we use to transport our guests, this was my ride today..

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/1216171354_zpsijjgjnml.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Joe Fox on December 17, 2017, 01:15:32 AM
Everyone I talked to today had a great time, with many new riders. All of whom said they would definately be back. It is awesome to share this wonderfull experience with so many.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: James Patten on December 18, 2017, 12:00:14 PM
Wiscasset Newspaper reporter Susan Johns would like to know the name of the horses that Linda Verney had with her.  Were they Bill and Bob?
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: James Patten on December 19, 2017, 01:31:04 AM
Wiscasset Newspaper article:
http://www.wiscassetnewspaper.com/article/train-christmas/95795?source=fs&slide=1 (http://www.wiscassetnewspaper.com/article/train-christmas/95795?source=fs&slide=1)
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017 >>>Photos of the December 16th event<<<
Post by: Kevin Madore on December 19, 2017, 03:28:37 AM
Folks,

It was great seeing all of you up in Alna last Saturday!   This was my 10th Victorian Christmas and what a pretty day it was.   Bright sunshine for most of the day, nice, chilly air and a fresh blanket of snow.  Not much more you could ask for.....except a snowstorm like last year!   

With the sunny skies, I elected to hike the line this year and try for some spots that I don't usually get to.   While that was fun and interesting, I found that it consumed a lot of time, when I could have been shooting around Sheepscot and Alna Center.   None the less, I got to Alna Center when the light was just awesome.   Lots of keepers from AC.   In addition, when I got back to Sheepscot, the low-light stuff as the crew was putting the trains away turned out pretty darn nice.   I love it when the lanterns come out!

All in all, a very nice day.   Here's a small album to show the folks who didn't make it what things looked like: 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/112261457@N06/albums/72157667569791889 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/112261457@N06/albums/72157667569791889)

Unfortunately, I have some family obligations next weekend in CT, so I won't likely make it up for the 23rd.    Hopefully, someone else will post some images so I can see what I missed.

Here's wishing all of the WW&F Folks a very Merry Christmas, and an awesome 2018!

Thanks,

Kevin Madore
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Ira Schreiber on December 19, 2017, 03:50:31 AM
Great photos, Kevin.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Gary Kraske on December 19, 2017, 06:27:59 AM
Kevin, Barb & I really appreciate your superb photography tech and composition as we cannot get to Maine as often as we would like.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on December 22, 2017, 05:01:00 PM
Victorian Christmas Dec 23, 2017
Snow/sleet/freezing rain storm.
Operations statement.

Victorian Christmas 12-23-17
Operations Statement

We will run the event on a reduced scope: steam train ride and Santa Claus. 

Other activities may be offered based on crew availability, but if they occur they should be considered bonus.  This includes the horse drawn sleigh rides.

VOLUNTEERS: you are STRONGLY encouraged to take NO chances in coming in.  If you feel you can safely come to the event, your help is most welcome.  However if you choose not to make the drive, it is entirely understood.  We have enough local crew to offer the public the minimum experience described above.

Thank you, weather the storm well, and Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Bob Holmes on December 31, 2017, 11:21:32 PM
After the fact, how well did the new boarding pass process for VC go?  Of course with the cold and the reduced # of visitors, it may be the new system was not really tested to its limits...
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on January 08, 2018, 01:59:14 AM
Victorian Christmas always brings out the photographers, and I always look forward to seeing their take on the railroad through their artistic lens. This one, however, is my all time favorite:

(https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26219572_10155421950761871_8147451979775321973_n.jpg?oh=ffa1d355a557f540425ffa2b15a028a3&oe=5AB2F03D)

We received this beautiful card from the daughter of the Ames family that attended the 2017 Victorian Christmas. It captures the spirit of Christmas, and our railroad perfectly. Well done!
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: James Patten on January 08, 2018, 02:13:52 AM
She even captured Bob Longo in the cab (unless she was there on the 16th in which case she completely mis-represented me)  ;)
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Paul Uhland on January 08, 2018, 04:51:18 AM
Miss Ames got VC completely right.
God bless the children.  :)
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: John Kokas on January 08, 2018, 01:03:29 PM
I think Miss Ames deserves a prominent spot in the next WW&F calendar!!!
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Wayne Laepple on January 08, 2018, 03:25:05 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of the poster for the 2018 event.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on January 08, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
She even captured Bob Longo in the cab

Idk. That Engineer looks more like Steve Zuppa to me. :-)
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Bill Baskerville on January 08, 2018, 04:28:03 PM
I think childhood imagination took over, and hooray for her.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: John McNamara on January 08, 2018, 04:32:28 PM
She even captured Bob Longo in the cab

Idk. That Engineer looks more like Steve Zuppa to me. :-)
As Leanne Fox said at Victorian Christmas, "That's not Santa; that's Steve."
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: John Kokas on January 08, 2018, 05:46:02 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of the poster for the 2018 event.

Wayne, I agree along with the calendar. On the advertising side of the house, I would suggest that each VC we have a children's poster competition with the winner being named the "Grand Elf" for the following year, (along with a cab ride).  Would suggest we make up a bunch of posters to send to local schools and put up in grocery stores, etc. 
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on January 08, 2018, 08:44:12 PM
How old is the artist in question? She is very talented. I agree with Wayne. It should somehow be part of the advertising for next season.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Marcel Levesque on January 08, 2018, 11:37:25 PM
I thinking that this should actually be made into a Christmas card to sell in the gift shop.  What a neat thrill for her and would also serve as an example to other kids to dare to try.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Bob Holmes on January 09, 2018, 12:48:08 AM
Agree with poster and Christmas card, and anything else that makes sense (without overdoing it).

Steve P:  what do you think.

Also, be sure to get her permission for any and all uses!!

Bob
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Joe Fox on January 09, 2018, 03:22:11 AM
Just my opinion, but I think selling it may be a little over kill. However, I definately like the idea of using it as advertisement, etc. (With permission of course) When I first saw this picture appear on facebook, my first reaction was to how well the event was represented. I mean look at the sheer detail they put into it. From the ribbon and wreath on #9, to the warming fire, to feeding the horses. They made sure to capture the activities at Alna Center very well.
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Stephen Piwowarski on January 10, 2018, 02:47:41 AM
I love the idea of using the drawing for our ad. Maybe we could develop it into a contest of sorts, like the Common Ground Fair does with their artwork, encouraging new participants and new art each year.
I think the Christmas card may be a bit much- after all it was a Christmas card to us. I think it was personal and special, but if the artist agreed, or would be willing to create somethig else for us because we liked this so much, I don't think it would be bad.

Steve
Title: Re: Victorian Christmas 2017
Post by: Paul Uhland on January 10, 2018, 06:24:43 AM
This pic is a gem, has a 'Grandma Moses' look to it, deserves further publicity.  ;)