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WW&F Railway Museum Discussion => Work and Events => Topic started by: Steve Smith on March 23, 2016, 11:06:09 PM

Title: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Steve Smith on March 23, 2016, 11:06:09 PM
Recently while at the museum to inspect journal boxes I've seen No. 10's old boiler perched most interestingly on a truck. How was it elevated to this position? I think it would be too heavy for Ichabod Crane.

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Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on March 23, 2016, 11:35:27 PM
Steve,

Do you remember the discussion of the "m" factor a few weeks ago?  Therein lies your answer...

Jason
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Carl G. Soderstrom on March 24, 2016, 12:04:12 AM
Is the boiler of enough significance to keep? (Even as a "Do not do it this way.)
Or is it culvert material? 
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on March 24, 2016, 07:10:43 AM
Culvert material- I like that! 

The boiler was lifted in the original part of shop bay 1, using Brendan's new rigging.  He also devised the passenger truck boiler conveyance.  Not that it deserves such a cushy ride...

We won't do anything with it until 10 is back in service.  We have discussed sectioning it lengthwise to teach visitors the inner workings of a locomotive boiler.  The defects aren't so bad as to affect this use. 

We just need someone to take the Dremel tool with a cut off wheel...

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Brendan Barry on March 24, 2016, 08:05:54 AM
10's boiler hanging in bay 1.

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Boilers are just popping up like weeds everywhere in the yard.

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Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Marcel Levesque on March 24, 2016, 08:12:04 AM
Jay,

I think you are going to need more than one cut off wheel...........or perhaps more than one dremel tool for that matter.
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Joe Fox on March 24, 2016, 10:32:58 AM
I would be more than happy to help make a display when the time is right. Steamtown did a excellent job with their engine, and I think if we were to do this, maybe find a way to display a mock half cylinder, etc out of lumber to keep costs at a minimum.
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Stephen Piwowarski on March 24, 2016, 12:12:35 PM
Ted Wichmann, the fellow who did the cut up engine for Steamtown and I used to work together. He's a great guy- he was roundhouse foreman for Steamtown when they were in Bellows Falls and was with them when they moved to Scranton. Usually when I see models that try to explain it all at once, they somehow miss the idea that the boiler is a steam generator, while the steam engine a the steam user- and the idea that these two components together comprise a steam locomotive- and the idea that they work in symbiosis - literally exhausting steam improves draft, which improves efficiency- that aspect is very life-like.
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Steve Smith on March 24, 2016, 05:28:30 PM
Brendan, thanks so much for the picture showing how No. 10's boiler was hoisted.

Now about that boiler that popped out of the weeds: Might it be headed for Brian's shop?
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Bill Reidy on March 24, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
We won't do anything with it until 10 is back in service.  We have discussed sectioning it lengthwise to teach visitors the inner workings of a locomotive boiler.  The defects aren't so bad as to affect this use. 

Using the old #10 boiler as a cut-away display would be a nice addition -- definitely in line with our museum's mission.  I think a very interesting exhibit could be developed around #10's exposed boiler and #9's original boiler.
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Wayne Laepple on March 24, 2016, 07:34:17 PM
How about displaying both boilers in an open-sided pavilion between the turntable and Cross Road? We could even make a pair of cylinders and some wheels from wood to simulate the running gear.
Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Brendan Barry on March 24, 2016, 08:40:09 PM
Now about that boiler that popped out of the weeds: Might it be headed for Brian's shop?

The boiler on the flatcar is number 9's old boiler. The boiler is being used as a flatcar load in tomorrows photo excursion trains.  The boiler has been sitting at the end of track seven and track seven is being cut back to be used as the turntable lead so the boiler had to be moved anyhow.

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Title: Re: No. 10 Boiler Balancing Act
Post by: Steve Smith on March 24, 2016, 10:19:15 PM
Brendan, that is a most interesting shot. The positions of the old boiler and No. 9 relative to the camera make the old boiler look long—as though it was for an 0-4-4-2T Mallet instead of an 0-4-2T.