Let's just say, we have this covered.
The letter points out installing this bridge ASAP "will advance our efforts by at least two years!"
Ya know, sometimes miracles do happen.
Is there a possibility that the bridge could be covered with a roof?
With regard to plexiglass, would it make sense to replace a section of the sheathing with a sheet of plexiglass so that visitors can see the truss inside?We could also photograph the assembly process and produce a couple of very large poster prints for display nearby. Another possibility would be a small (or full-size) model of the truss, again for display nearby (but out of visitor camera range).
By installing the bridge hopefully next year, this will literally be one less bridge we have to fill when the tracks get there,
Guys, what are we thinking to get the walking/biking trail across Trout Creek parallel to the bridge? That will need some planning with the Mid-Coast Conservancy folks.
I like Rick's idea - no anachronisms. Sliding rather than swinging doors.I think we still have the Humason Brook Bridge model. It would be interesting and educational to have the Trout Brook Bridge model be the same scale.....
Less likely to get hit?
And rather than a 1/4 scale model a 1/8 scale would be easier to put way for the winter.
Iron fittings could be welded or made from PVC or some such.
I like Rick's idea - no anachronisms. Sliding rather than swinging doors.
Less likely to get hit?
And rather than a 1/4 scale model a 1/8 scale would be easier to put way for the winter.
Iron fittings could be welded or made from PVC or some such.
Not to harp continuously on the subject, but I read that the original Moose Brook bridge include two inspection panels on each truss to assess the condition of the timbers and monitor the tightness of the tension rods. Would it be anathema to use a piece of plexiglass or Lexan to replace one inspection panel on each truss?
"In that case, it would make sense to provide a removable panel so tour guides can show the truss structure."
And mosquito repellant!
Make that a big skillet and a lot of lemons. Mooses are big animals. Or is that meeses?
Oh, don't worry; it's inevitable that part of this thread will end up getting flooded with bridge and water puns.
But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Oh no........ now it begins......... I have never seen such a clever group of railroad enthusiasts.....
Warning; sometimes it does sometimes get the moderator steaming.
All of the wood timbers were replaced.
I believe that most (if not all) of the steel rods, castings, bolts, etc. were saved, reconditioned, and repaired.
Jason reports and supplied the pictures..
"Today we laid out 4 rows of cribbing, carefully leveled them, and placed the 4 chords in preparation of building the trusses. They’ll be built on their side, prepped, and tipped inward until upright. then the floor timbers will be brought in and attached from underneath"
I believe Alex is right that the nodes allowed quick on site work. After all, the alternative was a slew of very intricate timber frame joints.
In perspective of the picture, Steve never looked so small and dainty.Dainty and Steve Z are not concepts I ever expected to see in one sentence. :o
A further question now that the Pony Truss Bridge has been announced; which I think will be a wonderful piece of historic preservation.
I imagine that the original abutments were cut stone. Are they still available? If not, will the new ones be poured concrete? They can be scribed to look like stone when they are done.
Ted Miles, WW&F Member
Here's something you should know...
The plural of moose is moose.
The plural of trout is trout.
So, if we got 2 bridges, they would be collectively known as the Moose Trout Brook Bridge.
Here's something you should know...
The plural of moose is moose.
The plural of trout is trout.
So, if we got 2 bridges, they would be collectively known as the Moose Trout Brook Bridge.
Ed,
What does a Moose Trout look like? ;D
Jeff S.
Page 10 of the Summer 2015 NSPCB Newsletter indicates that the Moose Brook Bridge has already been treated with fire retardant.
Boy, am I glad we weren't gifted the Blood Brook Bridge. Because then we would have had a Blood Trout Bridge, or would that be a Bloody Trout Bridge? If the latter we could then be accused by our British narrow gauge friends as cursing our native fish.
Although, having a Blood Brook Bridge would open lots of new opportunities since the elusive Moose Trout seems to have escaped our forum as subject matter.
I am going to regret this after I click on the "Post" box.
Ya know, it will only be a matter of time before one of our members digs out his old Billy Bass singing fish plaque and puts moose antlers on it!
I can't wait ;D
The 2x4s are for attaching the siding to the timbers. Additional 2x4s will be joining on the insides once everything is tied together.
A couple of pictures from today:
Mike twitching with the dozer. Fred's taking a brief break - but he wanted Jeff to know that he was chain sawing (limbing, mostly).
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Looking toward the bridge site, with a few trees missing.
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It's going to be a very busy year ahead. Will need lots of volunteers to get it all done.
I went fishing for Moose Trout today. I didn't get a bite, so guessing they don't like size 13 LL Bean boots attached to a leg dangling through the ice. Luckily the boots are waterproof, and the toes stayed dry.
Mother Nature has blessed us again with a fluctuating brook. Ice is still there, but doubt it is safe..
Did I miss a discussion of a color scheme for the bridge?Gordon,
Great progress. Can someone take a picture looking down on the deck and cross bracing? Will we cover the green protective ice shield
0Did I miss a discussion of a color scheme for the bridge?Gordon,
No official announcement yet, but the board has lightly discussed it (we did not vote on it last meeting)
40 feet. And already have a second life planned..
is a re-created Whitefield iron bridge a future possibility? ;)
is a re-created Whitefield iron bridge a future possibility? ;)
Not with the steel beams that we have, those will have other uses.
Rube Goldberg could also explain it.
Rube Goldberg could also explain it.
That usually involves a bowling ball, electric fan, candle, coconut, cat, toy wagon, ship in a bottle, and too many other things to list here. ::)
Jeff S.
..Put off that trip to Europe or picking up that Power-Ball check...But...we could really use some of that Powerball check....
..Put off that trip to Europe or picking up that Power-Ball check...But...we could really use some of that Powerball check....
Bridge color looks good.
Jeff S.
Bridge color looks good.
Jeff S.
Jeff assures us it is Moose Trout Red.
Bridge color looks good.
Jeff S.
Jeff assures us it is Moose Trout Red.
I thought I read that that shade causes Moose Trout to stampede! Do we want stampeding Moose Trout?
Bridge color looks good.
Jeff S.
Jeff assures us it is Moose Trout Red.
I thought I read that that shade causes Moose Trout to stampede! Do we want stampeding Moose Trout?
Actually, the moose trout will be fascinated and will congregate at the bridge. So many, in fact, that there is a danger they will dam the brook. ::)
Jeff S.
Bridge color looks good.
Jeff S.
Jeff assures us it is Moose Trout Red.
I thought I read that that shade causes Moose Trout to stampede! Do we want stampeding Moose Trout?
Actually, the moose trout will be fascinated and will congregate at the bridge. So many, in fact, that there is a danger they will dam the brook. ::)
Jeff S.
So the conductors will have to add the Congregation of Red Moose Trout to their spiel... I can hear Bob C. now... 'Look quickly, this is the famous Moose Brook Covered Bridge over Trout Brook. It is the home of the Rare Red Moose Trout who are purported to congregate here in large numbers. It is commonly debated if the Rare Red Moose Trout form a congregation or a school or a herd. Look... Look quickly and see if you can see any of them below as we cross the bridge. Oh... damn, the bridge covers block the view out the windows...'
So, they'll be the dam moose trout ??!?
I'm pretty sure I saw it once before, but is there a drawing of the approaches and bridge in place?
Humason is about 30 feet from abutment to abutment.
It doesn't really have anything to do with the bridge but I had a thought. Every time I see pics like this or culvert installation I always think that a long time ago, someone was working to put that fill in place when building the roadbed..... Am I crazy or does it ever cross anyone elses mind???Every day. I think that this was all done by hand, using only horse and tip cart to haul material.
It doesn't really have anything to do with the bridge but I had a thought. Every time I see pics like this or culvert installation I always think that a long time ago, someone was working to put that fill in place when building the roadbed..... Am I crazy or does it ever cross anyone elses mind???
I don't see evidence of gauging or spiking ahead of the machine.....
I don't see evidence of gauging or spiking ahead of the machine.....
It's subtle, but if you look closely they're using gauge rods to hold the track in place. The spike crew is probably following along behind the train.
Timber Crib construction. Today one was completed..
Marty the Mouse Trout! I like it!
Marty the Mouse Trout! I like it!
Looks like lunch to me......
Marty the Mouse Trout! I like it!
Looks like lunch to me......
Hey, don't talk about Marty that way. Moose Trout are sensitive. ::)
Jeff S.
I did not see Marty today when I crossed the brook, only the minnows, or would they be minnies? Minnie Marty Moose Trouts? Or would that be Meese Trout, where there is more than 1?
I did not see Marty today when I crossed the brook, only the minnows, or would they be minnies? Minnie Marty Moose Trouts? Or would that be Meese Trout, where there is more than 1?
Mike, you’ve been spending too much time in the sun...🤗
And of course, Marty the Moose Trout was supervising..
what's the total number of piles to be driven?
what's the total number of piles to be driven?
22 seems to be my recollection, but that may a be an old number..
How are the very heavy (I know I worked on them) trapezoidal support blocks being positioned and attached to the bent caps?
Always good to see Jason give a thumbs up. That means things are progressing well!
Why isn't Fred cutting ties?
Thank goodness for adult supervision.
I don't know how we can brook all these changes in our plans.
James said the Bridge has been delivered. Where is it "parked"? I am curious to know if the bridge had to be backed down the right of way which would be no small feat. Also will the truck and dollies be used to roll the bridge over the temporary span? I assume yes.After some initial difficulties, the bridge was indeed delivered to the site. It went so well that the crew there continued on and set the bridge over the brook. I'm sure it will be lowered into place very soon. Hopefully, video and pictures will be available tomorrow if not later today.
I wouldn't drive until were sure there are no nails and screws.Just to be clear, Fred means the area where the the bridge was in the parking lot. Lots of screws and nails there. Someone will put cones around the area.
Thank you so much to Doreen and Brentan for that great video of a one-off trip and a memorable day.
If this had been a government job, they would still be doing "studies."
What a fantastic article, photos, and video.
The level of support is remarkable, and our volunteers are amazing and do unbelievable things.
If this had been a government job, they would still be doing "studies."
We didn't tell you about the 6 months of permitting work with Town of Alna, DEP, Army Corps of Engineers, etc etc.
They parked it right here..
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0908180657_zps5njgzoqf.jpg)
A 12 pack of Moxie for whoever came up with the "bumper sticker".
Ed,
The "presentation" will take place FWW. ;D
Jeff S
Don't forget a prize for whom ever added the "Save Marty" to the sign.They parked it right here..
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/0908180657_zps5njgzoqf.jpg)
ROFLMAO! :o
A 12 pack of Moxie for whoever came up with the "bumper sticker".
Jeff S.
I was a bootlegger for a while. I used to bring Yuengling north until it became available in Massachusetts and Maine. I still occasionally find a case of Little Kings in the back of my car.
I was a bootlegger for a while. I used to bring Yuengling north until it became available in Massachusetts and Maine. I still occasionally find a case of Little Kings in the back of my car.
I would never have thought to use the temp bridge to attach the outrigger tension rods.
Not to say ATV's wont be an issue, we are extremely fortunate to have some very caring and considerate neighbors.
The first vehicle to cross over the brook in how many years?Weeks. Remember, the bridge itself crossed the brook on wheels?
Is it an optical illusion, or has Bryce grown a few inches? He looks taller than Dana.
Jeff S.
...And both are a pleasure to work with.
...And both are a pleasure to work with.
Yes -- definitely! We're fortunately we have younger members like Bryce and Dan. Bodes well for our museum's future.
I would think the standard gauge locomotives were either Consolidations or Mikados.Consolidations would be my guess, too. (B&M didn't roster any Mikados.)
I am curious to see what the bill will be from Chesterfield Associates ??? :o
Taking winter off is not in our DNA. It's a great time to do tree clearing and burning...
I had the experience of a handcar trip on Davis grade a number of years ago, along with if I remember correctly HWLTVM.Hi! On the AMTP the former TPT hand tipcar is powered by a double crank , the two trackcrew members have to turn with their arms when sitting on the hand tipcar bench. If the tipcar is loaded, it's not a bed of roses to get it into motion let alone to climb up a grade. BTW I don't want to pry but even if I've guessed that Dave is HWLTVM I don't figure out the meaning of these letters untill then. Can you tell me ? Please.
After that experience, I have no desire to try the ladder or the Mountain!