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Title: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on May 12, 2012, 09:31:21 PM
As James noted in his work report for 5/11, I have started the Crane car project again. I have gotten tired of seeing the parts waiting for reassembly just laying around.

Some work was done on this before, so I took the time this morning to find some of the parts that were already made. Looks like a straight forward project, and with the modifications I have in mind for stability, should work well. Just like a puzzle right now, with no instructions.

What I did today was cut and reassemble the axles. Jason fired up the welder in the afternoon and was cuting and assembling the second axle just as he was finishing the welding of the first one.

The top axle was already split, I just removed the sleeve and cut to the correct length
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/StandardGaugeaxle2.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/StandardGaugeaxle.jpg)

And here they are. I plan on cleaning off the old paint before continuing.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/Completedaxles.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Ira Schreiber on May 12, 2012, 09:45:27 PM
Since I was the one who disassembled the crane car about five years ago, good luck.
All of the fasteners and small hardware pieces were in two cans above the work bench on the south wall of the shop.
There are still many of these crane cars around, so a complete one should not be too hard to find. I am pretty sure there is one at Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport. This will give you a reference.

Ira
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on May 13, 2012, 12:12:52 AM
Is the crane car work being done under the auspices of Rowmow 1 Manufacturing Co.?
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Bill Reidy on May 13, 2012, 07:20:24 AM
Kielbasa Dave would also like to know if the crane car will have a comfortable seat.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Ira Schreiber on May 13, 2012, 10:42:36 AM
Seat?, it don't need no stinkin seat!! Besides, it never had one.

Seriously, I had also cut and partially drilled two 7' long "C" channels for new side rails to accomodate the 2' axles. They were in Bay 2 by the front doors about 5 years ago.

Continued good luck on the scavenger hunt.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: James Patten on May 13, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
Those "C" channels are still between Bays 2 and 3!  Neatly marked too.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Ira Schreiber on May 13, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
I am impressed and thank you, James.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Mike Fox on May 13, 2012, 08:45:05 PM
Yes Ira, we found your channels. Thought to be long gone but they are safe.

I will look for the coffee cans, but I am almost willing to bet they are gone. Hopefully not.

Dave ROWMOW (Right of Way-Maintenance of Way) Manufacturing is overseeing the work. The pay is low, hours are long, and the results may be questionable.

The seat option is available, out on the end of the crane.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Bill Reidy on May 13, 2012, 09:05:14 PM
The seat option is available, out on the end of the crane.

Well, that would have its ups and downs.

Thanks, Mike, for taking on this project.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Mike Fox on May 19, 2012, 09:55:54 PM
Coffee cans of nuts, bolts and other items were located today. Still no instructions. This could prove to be an interesting reassembly. I have decided to relocate the project to ROWMOW Manufacturing headquarters for the base assembly. I will load it next weekend for transport.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Mike Fox on May 22, 2012, 06:58:29 PM
Well I have had some success recently while looking for images of the derrick car. Someone restored a similar model recently and took all kinds of pictures.

Also, I have found someone that has a library of sorts on Fairmont and other models of railway equipment. Just so happened to have a service manual for a W-64 Derrick Crane. So that is on order and am hoping it helps. I know the photos will.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: James Patten on May 23, 2012, 06:20:27 PM
Another picture and post from Ken Fleming:

(http://www.wwfry.org/pics/for_forum/derrick.jpg)

FOR SALE (Jan 17) ND - Fairmont W64 Derrick Crane with hydraulic power pack. Machine has been totally rebuilt sand blasted and painted, works good, asking $1800. Steve Comer, 8518 38th St SE, Jamestown, ND 58401, 701-252-1779 (home) 701-269-2269 (Cell)
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Mike Fox on May 26, 2012, 08:55:19 PM
This is what I hauled home today. Hopefully over the next month or 12, I can get this back together.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3422.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: James Patten on May 28, 2012, 07:52:10 PM
Mike decided he didn't need the crane itself, so only the base car is at his world HQ.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Mike Fox on May 28, 2012, 09:25:33 PM
I would need  crane to unload the crane.

Anyhow, unloaded last night and started inventorying. As of now, the only things missing are the rail clamps, and the brake rod with arm attached to it. Easily fabricated if I can't find the original.

Tonight I cut the 1/8 inch plate I had to the sizes needed to weld to the frame. These plates are what the frame attaches to. A little welding, some drilling, lots of cleaning and painting and it will be ready to take shape.
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Brendan Barry on May 28, 2012, 11:37:14 PM
 I saw the rail clamps sitting outside the bay 4 a couple months ago I'll look around tomorrow
Title: Re: Crane Car Project
Post by: Mike Fox on May 29, 2012, 08:29:27 PM
Reviewing some photos I found, I have determined this is going to be more than a simple reassembly, once I have the frame in place. The wheels are goung to make contact with a crossmember if I put them back in the original location. I may have to lengthen the wheel base to get the wheels where they will not hit the crossmember.

This will change quite a few things. The brake rigging for one. The rods aren't going to be long enough.

The one I am wondering about is what will this type of change do to the ability for the steel to hold a capacity load without failing.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on May 30, 2012, 12:03:54 PM
I'm curious about the stability of the car, with the greatly reduced load bearing surface because of regauging wheels.  Will we be able to use the crane for anything?  Will it even be stable when the crane's in a resting position?
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on May 30, 2012, 12:14:36 PM
Having used a Fairmont Derrick car in the past, the stability issue will be governed by the strength of the rail clamps, outriggers, and counterweight on the derrick itself.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Crow on May 30, 2012, 12:45:43 PM
Mike, I think additional stiffening of the longitudinal frame will be needed as you lengthen the car; otherwise it might develop a sag or break in the middle.  Truss rods would be an option, too.

A 2-foot gauge crane will definitely need outriggers; the longer the better for stability.  The crane might need an auxiliary flatcar for cribbing, blocks, chains, etc.

The rail clamps will be so close to center of gravity that I don't think their use alone will be of use.

Just my two cents' worth.

 
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on May 30, 2012, 02:35:06 PM
I assume that the intended applications will influence the design. What are the intended applications?

-John
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on May 30, 2012, 08:17:32 PM
I started reassembling tonight. Trying to get an idea at just what I could do to clear the wheels. The solution I think I will use is cutting out the lower part of the c-channel and beefing it up using a 6 inch channel between the two beams to reinforce it. Kind of like a fender over the wheel.

As far as lifting. the crane HAD a rating of 2000 pounds. With no out riggers. My outrigger idea is to take the place of the stance the car used to have when it was broad gauge. They will not go beyond the car. The thought is they could set on the ties to provide stability.

John, intended uses. Lifting rail safely with a small crew, 600 lbs per rail, one at a time. Lifting frogs. Switch type, not the hopping kind. Roughly 400 lbs. Various other uses could be found also.

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Brendan Barry on May 30, 2012, 10:03:18 PM
Mike I looked for the rail clamps Tuesday and they were not where I last saw them. There was to much rain to do alot of searching in the yard.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dwight Winkley on May 31, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
1 of the rail clamps had a broken lever. The former owner borrowed 1 rail clamp so he could make some more to repair another crane car. There should be 3 rail clamps left at the museum.

The missing brake control road should be about 6 ft wide as it is mounted crossways between the wheels. It has short 2 " arms at the ends. There is a casting attached to the rod where the brake pedel is bolted on. There should be 3 or 4 piller blocks on the brake rod to mount the rod to the underside of the cars frame.
next time I am at museum I will look around.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on May 31, 2012, 08:40:04 PM
One of the blocks is missing that attaches to the frame. I have the 2 arms for the end. According to my photos, the only thing that I am missing is the brake rod that has the arm attached to it that goes the the pedal. They have a key way cut in the ends. I will also look for this stuff, as I now know what is missing.

Did some more work tonight. The handles that Dwight suggested may be in the way will be in the way. Easily moved. The slider end will be the hardest, as I need to cut a weld and re weld the brackets back on.


As for the clamps. Seashore has an extra set on the car I photographed. Perhaps we could borrow them to make copies.

And for the future, when I get the crane back together, someone will need to make a crank handle for the winch. I think I took a picture of it, but I can't find it on the computer.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on June 02, 2012, 06:59:22 PM
Problem.


(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3483.jpg)


My solution. 6 Inch Channel has just the right clearance. Note also the relocated hanger for the sliding handle, left side of the wheel in this next photo.


(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3480.jpg)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3481.jpg)


A quick overall shot.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3482.jpg)


And this is part of the brake rod assembly that is missing.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3485.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ira Schreiber on June 02, 2012, 08:11:18 PM
As the "destroyer" of the crane car and one who has owned commercial cranes, the rail clamps are a bad idea for 2' trains.
As someone mentioned(Dave Crow?) the C of G is much too narrow.
I would use sliding out riggers capable of an 8' spread. I sketched something up for Jason 4-5 years ago. These were simple square tube and channel steel outriggers. They had round tubes for the footers with holes drilled for various heights. Seeing is better than describing.
Ira
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on June 02, 2012, 08:44:02 PM
I wouldn't call you a destroyer. Dis-assembler maybe. Thankfully you guys saved what you could, and organized what was removed.

Mike
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on June 04, 2012, 01:25:15 PM
Mike,

I found the other cast brake rod quide in the shop.  It's next to the key box.  I also found a steel crank about 14" long.  It has a collar with double slots on the shaft side.  Not sure if it's for the crane car as it's a rusty red color.

Stewart
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on June 05, 2012, 08:50:18 PM
Good to know. I'll check with you Saturday about those.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on June 07, 2012, 09:07:14 PM
The original paint, or what is left of it is some kind of tough. I have started priming what I have ready, mainly to cover the rust. I have reached the point where I should start painting and assembling so I don't have to take it all apart again.

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on June 08, 2012, 08:22:08 AM
Mike,

There is some red metal primer on the shelf in the machine shop.  Fred put the paint in a plastic container with a screw on top.  I didn't use it on #65's trucks so you can take it for the CC.

Stewart

 
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on June 08, 2012, 08:33:16 PM
I'm using a light grey. Easier to cover up with the yellow.

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on June 10, 2012, 08:23:17 PM
Thanks to Stewart, I now have all missing parts. I found the brake rod assembly under a bench in Bay 4. Unfortunately, someone had found it before I did and removed what they wanted, and it wasn't the flaking paint. Cut the rod on either side of the arm, making it too short for the car now. I am going to look around for a short piece of rod at work, if not, Jason said he can order a 3 foot piece.

I have been sanding off all the old paint. It is completely junk. Cracking and flaking. Then priming to get ready for the new paint.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on June 19, 2012, 08:55:27 PM
I have been working on the brakes recently. Anybody have a supply of the Fairmont hollow pins that go through the wooden brake block? Two have not come out so well. I will probably have to make something up to replace them.

I should be hanging the brakes shortly to get the new rod lined up for welding. When I get the brakes done, it will be back to stripping and priming.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on July 07, 2012, 08:45:10 PM
Still creeping along with this. Not much time to work on it in the past week, but I have most of the main frame parts primed. 2 of the mounting rings for the jacks have been welded to the end frame. As soon as I get some yellow paint on the frame and some reassembly, I'll get some pictures taken.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on July 26, 2012, 08:15:27 PM
Had a little motivation this week. I have dis assembled the car again ,or atleast what I had together. Removing the paint and priming along the way.

I have tried 2 different yellow paints. The lighter sunburst yellow was not the correct color, though it looks nice. Safety Yellow is very close to the original paint, which is the color of the axle in the photo below. I need to remove the wheels for painting still.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3669.jpg)

These are the two main frame rails and one of the cross frames after the initial yellow paint. The final coat will be the Safety Yellow.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3671.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on July 29, 2012, 07:53:59 PM
I visited the world headquarters of ROWMOW Mfg today .  Mike has been very busy with the parts. All are in various stages of rebuild and paint with many in finish coat.   The crane parts look great ... even better in person than the photos! The project is really coming along.

Stewart
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on July 30, 2012, 08:47:22 PM
Yes, here at the world HQ for Row Mow Mfg Inc., we even allow visitors. No admission fee either.

The start of the final assembly for the parts I have ready starts tomorrow or Wednesday. Need to try to get them all in one pile to make room on the assembly room floor for more parts modification and cleaning. Plus right now I can't get my rider out. Grass isn't tall....yet.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on August 04, 2012, 12:57:42 PM
Progress. I have some touch up painting to do, like the bolts and nuts, and where I scratched the paint during assembly.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3700.jpg)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3705.jpg)

Brake rod assembly.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3704.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stephen Hussar on August 04, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
Looking great, Mike!!

Stephen
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ira Schreiber on August 04, 2012, 06:12:04 PM
It is great to see it coming together after the mess I made pulling it apart.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Richard "Steam" Symmes on August 04, 2012, 10:02:18 PM
What exactly will this crane car be used for?  It looks great, whatever it's destiny may be.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on August 08, 2012, 08:18:50 PM
This will hopefully give us the ability to lift heavy things quickly. When working a normal weekend with a small crew, this would help in the lifting department. I figure the heaviest thing will be a piece of rail, at 600lbs, with switch frogs being next. Nothing heavier than one stick of rail.

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on August 22, 2012, 08:46:39 PM
I uncovered something interesting a couple of weeks ago, and figured I better take a picture of it before I painted it.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3830.jpg)

Wish I knew what the rest said. Keeps me thinking.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on August 22, 2012, 08:59:44 PM
I'm confused (what else is new). I see two severed pieces of concrete and two steel plates sunk into concrete. What am I really seeing?

-John
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on August 23, 2012, 08:01:33 PM
The letter R written on the steel before it was sheared to size. It was actually a word, just don't know exactly what it said.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on September 09, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
Time for another update. Here are some photos today.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3961.jpg)

While sanding this end today I found something.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3957.jpg)

It is below the post that the rail clamps mount to. I did not find this on the other end. Ground into the steel. Builders number at Fairmont?

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3956.jpg)

Turning it over, I found this grease pencil marking that I think said 3 1/2.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3959.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on September 09, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
Wow.  Bright yellow.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on September 10, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
It's about a school bus yellow. I took a paint chip from a protected area underneath and it matched that color. Looks bright too because of the flash.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred L. Kuhns on September 23, 2012, 08:36:25 PM
 Mike, How dose the rail clamp or clamps work in relationship to the frame of the crane car and track?  I know they hold the car to the track but how?   Thanks Fred Kuhns   
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on September 24, 2012, 09:14:25 PM
In the original set up, the clamps would grab the rails by using levers. Then there are some stops that can be used as keepers to keep the clamp clamped.

But now that this car has been narrowed, the clamps and mounting hardware need to be reconfigured.

Here are a couple of photos from another car, showing the clamps.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3448.jpg)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3451.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred L. Kuhns on September 24, 2012, 09:21:25 PM
  Mike:  Thanks for your information, look forward to seeing the crane car in action.  Fred L. Kuhns 
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on September 24, 2012, 10:50:05 PM
Did the MBTA bus and the Blue Line subway car, both of which show in the picture, come with it?

-John
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ira Schreiber on September 24, 2012, 11:00:13 PM
That is the crane at Seashore. I had looked at it several times for ideas.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on September 25, 2012, 09:28:01 PM
I used that one for my assembly reference. Took all kinds of photos.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on October 01, 2012, 09:32:30 PM
Unfortunately, I must say that the Crane will not be ready for this work weekend. I was hoping to have it completed, but that will not happen.

I finished installing the brakes tonight, and adjusted them to work evenly.

I have a little touch up painting to do then on to the decking. That will complete the base of the car.

Then I still have to finish preping the mast and supports for paint.

So roughly another 2 weeks if I'm lucky on what I have here.

The boom is still in Sheepscot, and that needs preping and paint, then new cables.

So I'll keep plugging away at it, and it will be 100% for the spring work weekend.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Keith Taylor on October 02, 2012, 03:14:50 PM
Unfortunately, I must say that the Crane will not be ready for this work weekend. I was hoping to have it completed, but that will not happen.

I finished installing the brakes tonight, and adjusted them to work evenly.

I have a little touch up painting to do then on to the decking. That will complete the base of the car.

Then I still have to finish preping the mast and supports for paint.

So roughly another 2 weeks if I'm lucky on what I have here.

The boom is still in Sheepscot, and that needs preping and paint, then new cables.

So I'll keep plugging away at it, and it will be 100% for the spring work weekend.

Mike....it is always better to not rush and do things the right way...and do them once.
Your work is top shelf and the finished crane will be well worth the wait.
Keith
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on October 14, 2012, 06:51:49 PM
Here's a picture of Mike spraying primer on the crane arm, after Mike finished removing the old paint.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on October 16, 2012, 08:40:09 PM
Puttering on the crane tonight, all of a sudden it felt like a train was going by. Bouncing and shaking. But the nearest rail is over 10 miles away. Nice little earthquake tonight.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on October 23, 2012, 01:49:22 PM
Will this crane car be able to be pulled by both of the railroads diesels or speeders once its finished?
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dwight Winkley on October 23, 2012, 07:09:41 PM
The museum only has one deisel #52. weight 12 ton. The Brookville is gasoline powered. weight 1 1/2 ton. It could be pulled by either loco or steam power. But the Brookville is used to move the small right of way equipment. Model T rail car is for passenger service. Museum has no powered speeders. Only two hand pump section cars. dwight
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on October 28, 2012, 06:16:28 PM
As promised, here are a few photos of the car.

For the most part, it is done. I have figured out the rail clamps, but have not installed them, or even drilled the holes to mount them yet. Maybe this week.

First. A reminder of what I hauled home.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_3422.jpg)

Now, without further hesitation, here is WW&F Work Car #1010

Looks very different out of the shop. I had to unhook the garage door opener and push the door up a couple of inches to get it out.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4016.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4017.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4021.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4020.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on October 28, 2012, 06:42:48 PM
ROWMOW Mfg. Company sure does nice work. 
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ira Schreiber on October 28, 2012, 07:50:05 PM
As one who helped disassemble the crane car, I am amazed the great job Mike Fox has accomplished in restoring it.
Congratulations, Mike.
Ira
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on October 28, 2012, 08:19:36 PM
Mike;
Unbelievable! Great job! I saw an MBTA jet-powered snow melter photo in the Globe this week that would make a great next project for ROW MOW Mfg. for conversion to 2 foot gauge...
Dave
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on October 28, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
Looks great Mike-- very nice!  If only we had something heavy that we needed it for to lift...

see ya
Jason
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on October 28, 2012, 08:48:01 PM
A first class job Mike -- thanks!

One question -- where's Dave's seat?

- Bill
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on October 28, 2012, 09:15:21 PM
Extremely impressive!

-John
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stephen Hussar on October 29, 2012, 05:47:31 AM
Unbelievable, Mike!! Wow.

SH
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Keith Taylor on October 29, 2012, 10:22:48 AM
Mike....I think you may need to lay some two foot gauge rails into your garage!

Keith
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Sample on October 29, 2012, 02:44:02 PM
Mike, with all the MOW equipment coming out of your garage maybe it is time for some permanent 2 ft gauge track there LOL.
Looks good!
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on October 29, 2012, 03:55:36 PM
Maybe you could "borrow" a couple of sections of bog track.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on October 29, 2012, 04:20:01 PM
Maybe you could "borrow" a couple of sections of bog track.
Yes, but he would need a crane to move it!
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on October 29, 2012, 07:02:55 PM
Thanks guys.

Daves seat is the brake pedal. He should be able to hold that down.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on October 29, 2012, 08:15:28 PM
Huh-- I thought Dave's seat would be out at the end of the boom...
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on October 29, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
Huh-- I thought Dave's seat would be out at the end of the boom...
Therefore, Dave's seat cannot be installed until the rail clamps are installed.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on October 29, 2012, 10:11:32 PM
Jason,
Do you mean on some sort of swing seat at the end of the boom that I can sit in with a brush hog in my hands? It was, of course, converted by ROWMOW Mfg. world famous for their two foot sickle mowers.
Dave
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Robert Hale on November 10, 2012, 09:31:05 AM
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8199/8171944784_952b70d4f9_h.jpg)

Stumbled on this photo on the net. I think it was in the subject about the type of trucks that were used, not about the crane but you can see how they designed the crane for 600mm WWI trench trains.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 18, 2012, 09:00:09 PM
I have been working on the rail clamps recently. This is the last item I have to do prior to delivery back to the museum, which I will tentatively say is December 1.

I can then use the overhead crane in Bay 2 to put the boom back on and then hopefully get that painted. It may need to be stored in the Machine shop to keep the paint from freezing once it is painted. I had my workshop at a comfortable 54 degrees and the paint dried just fine.

The rail clamps are very interesting to work on. Simple idea, somewhat complicated arrangement.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on November 30, 2012, 07:44:12 PM
Here is the loading process.

How do I plan on getting this


(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4032.jpg)

onto this?

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4033.jpg)


Like this.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4034.jpg)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4035.jpg)
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4036.jpg)


All loaded. Just need to tie it down and it's ready to go.


(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4037.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 30, 2012, 07:52:49 PM
Very nice job and clever loading system.
Ira
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on November 30, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
Mike,

The car looks better than it did when new.  Gotta love those jacks!  Can't wait to see it in person.

Stewart
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stephen Hussar on November 30, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
That's just fabulous, Mr Fox!

SH
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on November 30, 2012, 11:33:48 PM
Would it have been easier to use those reindeer that are pulling the sleigh in the background to help load the crane car? Nice job as usual Mike.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 01, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
I was their entertainment Dave. I set them out then had to load the crane before dark. Rudolph was so interested in the goings on his nose was lit.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred L. Kuhns on December 02, 2012, 12:42:26 AM
  Mike,  The applied rail clamps look just great. Thanks again for all your hard work on the crane car.  Fred L. Kuhns   
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 04, 2012, 02:18:34 PM
Thank you Fred. We tried them yesterday and have come up with a safety bar that will not allow them to unlock from the rail. Now I just need to fabricate it.


Now. I have decided to name the car. I want something catchy like Rowmow.
I have come up with a few, but am still looking for what might be the best one.

I have thought of;
The Alna Picker,
Picky,
Derrick,
and Boomer.
Or maybe even Cranky.

I will stencil it to the car in the position shown in the photo below. Centered and straight of course. Any input is welcome.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/TheAlnaPicker.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Keith Taylor on December 04, 2012, 02:38:33 PM
I would name it Ichabod......
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on December 04, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
ROWHOOK?

-John
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ira Schreiber on December 04, 2012, 03:54:24 PM
Stephen, as in Stephen Crane (and Hussar and Zuppa too)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on December 04, 2012, 04:34:28 PM
John M,

You've got my vote.  ROWHOOK is rather a "catchy" name, don't you think.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 04, 2012, 09:32:22 PM
Keep them coming. All very good. Wayne suggests Big Lift. All very catchy. Though Ikabod makes me smile.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on December 04, 2012, 10:01:48 PM
I like Ichabod too. It shows our literary bent..
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Wayne Laepple on December 04, 2012, 10:17:57 PM
I think I like Ichabod, too.

Back when I was working on the railroad, we used to always refer to a mattock as a Lester. I don't know how many folks here are old enough to get that reference, so I'll just leave it hanging there for a bit and see what happens.

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on December 04, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
Lester Mattock - he he he.  That's as good as the Yale figure 8 switchlock being called a Mae West! 

Well, I think Mike should label the car "How's that grab you"

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Steve Smith on December 04, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
Ichabod......yeah that's so good it's a no-brainer!

Well, wait a minute, wasn't the no-brainer the Headless Horseman? Gracious, I'm so confused!  ???

PS. to Dave B. : Literary bent sounds good. You might want to put "Literary" on a sign and nail it to one of the bents on Humason Brook trestle.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on December 05, 2012, 12:32:14 AM
Steve, the big question in my mind is whether you have been hanging around with Fred Morse and Ed Lecuyer too much, or whether they have been hanging around with you too much.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ed Lecuyer on December 05, 2012, 03:37:07 PM
Steve, the big question in my mind is whether you have been hanging around with Fred Morse and Ed Lecuyer too much, or whether they have been hanging around with you too much.

I've been using my cranium a "fair amount" to see if I could up with anything better than Ichabod.
My entries:
Captain Hook
Derrick

PS: "Ichabod's Cranium" sounds like the name of a PBS TV show for kids.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Keith Taylor on December 05, 2012, 03:52:20 PM
I think I should point out that Ichabod Crane was NOT the headless horseman.
Ichabod was the target of the "Headless Horseman's" attention.

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Craig "Red" Heun on December 05, 2012, 08:13:57 PM
Put a few black stripes on it and tell the kids it's Bumble Bee from transformers

Okay Ichabod is good!
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Steve Smith on December 05, 2012, 08:42:23 PM
How about

THE CRANE IN MAINE
(falls plainly on the mai.........uh, no.

Back to Ichabod!
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 05, 2012, 09:23:05 PM
You guys are too funny.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on December 10, 2012, 08:31:46 PM
OK - if we want to go the "musical" route, not to be confused with the Alphabet Route, how about:

The Crane In Maine works mainly on the Train............................
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Steve Smith on December 10, 2012, 10:18:33 PM
John, I love it! But I heard from Mike that Ichabod is the winner. That's a good one, and easier to stencil, too.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 14, 2012, 08:03:37 PM
As Stewart said in the work thread, the two cables were installed today. I removed every pulley, cleaning the old grease off of them. I also forced new grease through the pins that run through the pulleys. Then I began the reassembly.

After all together, I greased the pulleys again. Also touched up the paint and added some red to the end of the boom. The paint will be dry tomorrow and I can move Ichabod outside.

Next will be figuring the mounts for the counterweight, and making the locks I designed for the railclamps.

I'll snap a couple of shots Saturday in the sun.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 15, 2012, 06:59:55 PM
Here are a few sunny shots from this morning, as soon as the sun cleared the trees.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4041.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4042.jpg)
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: James Patten on December 15, 2012, 07:01:13 PM
Below is Mike demonstrating "Ichabod", aka work car 1010.  The lifting mechanism works great.  The lowering mechanism could be a little bit exciting.  And don't swing the boom around without first using the rail clamps
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on December 15, 2012, 08:13:09 PM
Mike,

As Keith noted a couple of months ago, your work is always "top shelf."  Wish I had the talent and skill to help the museum the way you do.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 15, 2012, 08:29:55 PM
Thank you Bill. I don't think of it as talent and skill. I think of it as bumbling, fumbling and determination. Oh, and some fresh paint thick enough to cover the mistakes.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Alan Downey on December 15, 2012, 11:40:32 PM
That is a really swell looking crane, Mike. Thanks for posting your progress as you've worked on these past couple MOW cars, as it's been incredibly interesting to see. Can't wait to see it in action!
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on December 16, 2012, 12:12:25 AM
Thank you Bill. I don't think of it as talent and skill. I think of it as bumbling, fumbling and determination. Oh, and some fresh paint thick enough to cover the mistakes.
"Bumbling" reminds me of the scene in Casablanca where the evil German, Major Strasse, says that Richard Blaine (Humphrey Bogart) is just another "blundering American." To this, the Prefect of Police Louis Reneault (Claude Raines) says, "But we mustn't underestimate American blundering. I was with them when they "blundered" into Berlin in 1918."

In like manner, we at the WW&F must never underestimate your bumbling, fumbling, and determination, as it continues to bring us all sorts of neat stuff!

-John

Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Robert Hale on December 16, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
Very nice work!!
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stephen Hussar on December 17, 2012, 08:57:00 AM
Absolutely amazing! Thanks for the pics of the crane in action as well.

SH
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on December 17, 2012, 10:58:37 AM
Mike, I have an acquaintance who has a similar fairmont crane which was given a "homemade" power lifting improvement.  It involved an 8HP engine slaved with a hydraulic pump with a geared linkage to the main lifting crank.  The mechanism also acted as a counterweight for the boom.  If you are thinking about future improvements to Icabod, I can probably send you some pictures of the unit.  Food for thought.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on December 17, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
Fairmont actually produced a model with that modification, or so I've seen. Might be the same that you talking about.
Title: Re: Crane Car - Official Work Thread
Post by: Ken Fleming on December 17, 2012, 10:47:24 PM
Look at the 12th post on the first page of this topic. Its a powered Fairmont Crane that for sale.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Eric Schade on January 05, 2013, 03:05:12 PM
here we are putting the plow on # 52 with Icabod!
(http://www.shearwater-boats.com/WWF%20crane1.JPG)
(http://www.shearwater-boats.com/WWF%20crane2.JPG)
(http://www.shearwater-boats.com/WWF%20crane3.JPG)
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on January 05, 2013, 06:23:12 PM
Lifting the plow with Icabod worked so well that we -

(1) Hung the plow on the front to plow track 4 and the main up to the YL.
(2) Then we pulled it off the front and moved it to the back of the locomotive to plow the yard tracks.
(3) We then moved it back to the front so #52 can plow coming out of the machine shop where it spends the winter.

Mike ran the boom and hoist cables so each change took under a half an hour.  It was great!!

Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Bill Reidy on January 05, 2013, 07:07:52 PM
Thanks Eric and Stewart for the photos and report.

Nice job with Ichabod, Mike -- a terrific addition to the museum!

- Bill
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: John Kokas on January 05, 2013, 07:13:34 PM
Now that is SWEET !!!!!!!  8)

When does the power unit get added?
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on January 05, 2013, 07:24:39 PM
I like the shot of Milo supervising.

Jason estimated the plow to weigh 500lbs. The crane picked it easily with no counterweights (yet). Still working on those.

We do need a couple of crank handles for it. The donor was nice enough to loan one for us to make some copies with.

If somebody would like to make these, please let me know and I'll get the dimensions. Otherwise, we may make a couple in the shop.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stephen Hussar on January 06, 2013, 08:12:43 AM
Fantastic! Thanks for the great pics too!
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Gordon Cook on January 06, 2013, 01:13:17 PM
Mike,
Can you describe the crank handle you need for Ichabod?
 
Square hole size
Handle length
Handle offset (if necessary or not)

Maybe someone has one out there that is similar enough that it could be modified.

Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on January 06, 2013, 07:15:00 PM
I will have to take a picture to get exact measurments, but I think we can describe it a little now.

It has a 3/4" square hole. The handle is about 12 inches long from the center of the square hole to the c enter of the handle hole. Offset is about 3 inches. Handle is about 6 to 8 inches long.

I had found similar ones online, accept they were only about 8 inches long. That is way too much leverage to give up.

I will take a picture of the handle on loan next weekend and edit the measurements into the photo for anyone who may want to see them.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Fred L. Kuhns on January 08, 2013, 01:16:49 AM
  Mike, It was great to see the crane car in action. Thanks again for all the hard work.  Fred L. Kuhns
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dwight Winkley on January 08, 2013, 08:05:06 PM
we will need two handles made for Ichabod.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on January 13, 2013, 03:04:59 PM
Here is a photo of the handle, with the measurements edited onto the photo. The 8" handle length is not critical, but the offset and overall length probably are. It fits onto a 3/4 inch square shaft.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/100_4083-A.jpg)
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: John McNamara on January 13, 2013, 03:47:54 PM
Mike,

Great picture! What are the details of the socket area?

-John
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on January 13, 2013, 08:58:38 PM
Sorry Jhn. I will add that it is a 3/4 inch square hole.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jeff Schumaker on January 15, 2013, 11:24:10 AM
Just getting caught up with the recent activities. Very impressive work, Mike. I'm looking forward to seeing Ichabod up close this spring.

Jeff S.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on February 06, 2013, 08:59:51 PM
Due to the impending storm and the possibility I will not be down Saturday, I dropped by for a few hours Tuesday and worked on the Counterweight (casting). I located the center and drilled a couple of holes for one of the brackets. Then, Steve Z. helped me load the pieces I had made and I brought them back to the world HQ here at ROW MOW Mfg. to apply the proper amount of paint.

I am planning on hanging the casting upside down compared to the way it was originally designed. This puts the wide brim on the bottom and my thought is that this will put the heavier portion of the casting on the bottom. And if the casting has the WW&F markings on it like the one on #9 does, it will be readible. I haven't removed the dirt to find this out yet. Would be kind of neat if it did.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Eric Schade on February 23, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
(http://www.mylargescale.com/1stclass/PhippsburgEric/P2230348.JPG)
Mike fox installed his counter weight on the crane today ... keeps the works from tipping over!  well done
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on February 23, 2013, 07:28:48 PM
Thanks Eric for sharing that photo, here are a couple more, showing the attachment method too.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/Counterweight_zps714a107f.jpg)

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/Counterweight1_zps1feac89a.jpg)
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Pete "Cosmo" Barrington on March 04, 2013, 09:41:27 PM
Wait a minute,... that counter weight.. it looks like the casting from-  :o
QUICK! Jason,m check under #9 to make sure it's still all there!  ;D
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jason M Lamontagne on March 04, 2013, 10:14:33 PM
Actually, we're storing Ichabod's spare counterweight on Number 9.

See ya
Jason
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on April 14, 2013, 06:08:13 PM
A representative from RowMow Mfg. asked that I post these photos I took of Ichabod's first venture out on a work train:
(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab33/dbuczkowski/2013-04-13002950_zps4c1e0a3c.jpg) (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/dbuczkowski/media/2013-04-13002950_zps4c1e0a3c.jpg.html)
(http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab33/dbuczkowski/2013-04-13004126_zpsb0abf632.jpg) (http://s847.photobucket.com/user/dbuczkowski/media/2013-04-13004126_zpsb0abf632.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 14, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
This is what you missed Dave.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/2013-04-13_142411_zps5736f08f.jpg)
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Stewart "Start" Rhine on April 14, 2013, 08:23:28 PM
That's a nice batch of rail, switch frogs and joint bars youz guyz picked up.  Not only does it help with prep for the Work Weekend but it helps get the former rail staging area cleaned up along Albee's field.  The work flat, Ichabod and Brookville work train looks like a great set up for such moves.

Good pics!   
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Dana Deering on April 15, 2013, 05:48:03 AM
Hey All,

     The crane worked great for picking up the rail.  Mike, you do excellent work!  The plan is to salvage as much of the rail at Albee's as possible for the yard, and perhaps the TOM siding (someday).  The rest, that can't be used, will be scrapped.  Eventually we will have that area at Albee's Field picked up and neatened up.   It's looking better all the time.

Dana
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 15, 2013, 07:42:06 PM
Thanks Dana, I aim (or in this case pick) to please.

Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on April 29, 2013, 07:47:04 PM
Well for any one doubting the usefullness of the crane, I hope some photos from the work weekend change your mind. I had never thought it would be as usefull as it is.

The paint as been scratched and I couldn't be happier. Built for work, it is once again doing what it was designed to do. Save backs.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on May 15, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
Finally bit the bullet this week and made the crank handles after work this week. I followed my measurements that I posted a few pages ago.

This is what I did. Day 1

I purchased 2 - 3/4 drive sockets on Ebay.

I then looked around the scrap metal bin at work and found some steel.

And I started with this.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/2013-05-13163311_zps56f330ed.jpg)


First I trimmed the steel to the width I wanted, then welded the sockets on.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/2013-05-13170530_zpsd89bf99f.jpg)

And heated and bent my angles.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/2013-05-13172418_zps9395df84.jpg)

Day 2.

I made and welded on some gussets, and found material for the handle.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/2013-05-14172408_zps85e1b745.jpg)


And now, we have two handles and can return the one that is on loan. I brought these home and are down in the workshop with primer and the first coat of yellow on them.
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m573/miketrainnut/WWandF%20Ry/Crane%20Car/2013-05-14181021_zpsb4464a0b.jpg)
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Steve Smith on May 15, 2013, 07:36:38 PM
Thanks, Mike. Nice job!
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Steve Smith on May 15, 2013, 11:29:11 PM
Forgot to mention the sequence of photos is also much appreciated.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Paul Crabb on May 16, 2013, 02:38:17 PM
Mike;
Sorry about scratching the paint on Work Weekend. We wern't smart enough to lower the boom enough so the rail we were picking up and swinging around in order to drill bolt holes wouldn't hit the crane braces. No matter what Icabod made the task much easier and worked even better when Dana figured out there is a second gear that makes lifting the hook much easier.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on May 16, 2013, 07:52:16 PM
Paul, a piece like Ichabod looks better scratched. It shows use. It is bound to happen. Maybe in 5 years I (or somebody) will slap some more paint on it.


I think this is the safest way yet we have to handle the rail.
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Jock Ellis on August 05, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
Mike, do the outriggers extend on both sides to take the weight off the track when you lift?  You guys are really getting to look like a real railroad now. Congrats!
Title: Re: Work Car 1010 (Crane Car "Ichabod") - Official Work Thread
Post by: Mike Fox on August 06, 2013, 09:11:37 PM
The outriggers don't extend like a crane. They work best used in conjunction with the clamps. Cranking down on the jacks until the clamps have gripped the rail and engaging the locks to make sure they don't slip off. The counterweight really helps balance things out. Visually and literally.