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Worldwide Narrow Gauges => US Two Footers => Topic started by: Matthew Gustafson on November 14, 2008, 11:47:55 PM

Title: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on November 14, 2008, 11:47:55 PM
Does anyone know the history of this line and has a map of the remaing section of the railroad today! I would be glad to get any helpful Info!  ??? ::) :o 8) :D
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 15, 2008, 12:34:32 AM
It was built as an amusement train about 40 years ago. Go to their web site for the history. They have some interesting 2' steam engines, including a 2' Mallet.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: James Patten on November 15, 2008, 08:34:09 PM
There is a link to the CC&V from the WW&F website (the links page).

I visited railroad and the town of Cripple Creek when I was out in Colorado 8 years ago.  The town was basically an excuse for gambling casinos.  Not too different I suppose from 100 years ago when people gambled to find gold in the ground, now they gamble to find gold in a machine.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Mike Fox on November 15, 2008, 08:41:03 PM
  Not too different I suppose from 100 years ago when people gambled to find gold in the ground, now they gamble to find gold in a machine.
;D Now that is one phrase I like. I'll have to try to remember that one. But unfortunately I have a memory like Hoover Dam. Stuff comes in, lingers for a while, then flows out, with little chance of getting it back.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Dave Buczkowski on November 16, 2008, 01:18:01 PM
Mike,
Not only do
I like James' phrase but yours on the Hoover Dam as well. I resemble that! Now if I could only remember it the next time I could use it...
Dave
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 16, 2008, 01:31:50 PM
The voters of Colorado just passed a change allowing the three gambling towns to vote on raising bets from $5 to $100, remaining open 24 hours and adding roulette and craps to the mix. The bulk of the increased revenue will go the community colleges with the balance to the communities, Cripple Creek, Central City and Blackhawk. The latter two adjacent  towns are famous, for some of us, as the home of the Gilpan Tram, a 2' railway connecting the mines in the area and powered primarily by Shay locomotives.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 16, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
The Cripple Creek & Victor website seems to be no more. I have tried several different references and still get the same error message.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Mike Fox on November 16, 2008, 07:41:56 PM
Found it. I had to sneak through the Cripple Creek website, located here.
http://www.cripple-creek.co.us/ (http://www.cripple-creek.co.us/)
Here is a link to the railroad
http://www.cripple-creek.co.us/CrippleCreekandVictorNarrowGaugeRailroad.aspx (http://www.cripple-creek.co.us/CrippleCreekandVictorNarrowGaugeRailroad.aspx)
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Ira Schreiber on November 16, 2008, 08:04:21 PM
Mike,
I found that site too but it is not the railroad's site. It is the Cripple Creek Tourism site.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Stephen Hussar on November 17, 2008, 12:13:55 AM
It might just be that they're re-building their website. Here's their email address: ccvngrr@aol.com
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on December 22, 2008, 11:33:38 AM
The Cripple Creek & Victor website seems to be no more. I have tried several different references and still get the same error message.
I've tried it too and got the same thing?
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on December 23, 2008, 01:54:50 PM
I do know that some of the engines there are from Gremany but are there any steam engines there that once worked on the original 2 foot Cripple Creek & Victor railroad? ??? :)
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Tom Casper on December 23, 2008, 02:02:40 PM
Matt,  There never was an original 2 ft there.  It was 3 foot till abandond.  Rebuilt as a tourist line to the 2 foot gauge and engines brought in to populate the roster.

Tom C.

PS as a bad speller myself,  I hate to point out errors but I can't miss a cheap shot.  You missed original.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Matthew Gustafson on December 23, 2008, 03:29:39 PM
I knew that there was a 3 foot line on the Cripple Creek & Victor but I thought that the 2 foot line was also original.
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Bernie Perch on December 24, 2008, 12:13:14 AM
I believe that the CC&VRR is built on the standard gauge Midland Terminal right of way.

Bernie
Title: Re: The Cripple Creek & Victor Railroad!
Post by: Mike the Choochoo Nix on December 24, 2008, 04:15:25 PM
The only 2 foot of any size in Colorado was the Gilpin Tram, straight west of Denver in Blackhawk. All others would have been industrial plant railroads or tourist operations.
Mike Nix